Rizky wrote:
> i think the problem was on my code.
> 
> the bottom grid now is inside a new container div. previously, it was
>  under the same parent div with the top grid. that was the real 
> reason i was forced to use negative margins in the first place.

Fine. Correct nesting wasn't one of the things I looked for, and the
validator rarely ever pick up such design-flaws.
Negative margins on floats are useful, but no need to use them "just for
the fun of it" - unless that's what you want :-)

> so i guess that should avoid me from further problems don't u think?
>  sorry for the trouble I've caused :P

No trouble at my end - and we got the opportunity to clear up some
misunderstandings about floats, negative margins and Internet Explorer.

>> - All my browsers show a lot of vertical overlapping of elements - 
>> making the page pretty unreadable. That's because the layout rely 
>> on fixed height, and fixed font-size to go with it.

> ouch...

You said it :-)

Note: I set 'minimum font size = 14px' in all browsers that have that
option - which means: all major ones, and IE/win is most often set to
'ignore font size' - resulting in 16px font size for most text.

I can't easily read text smaller than that on my screens.
I design for 200% font-resizing, or 32px 'minimum font size', in case
someone needs even larger text. You should try that.

>> FYI: I use a tuned version of HTML Tidy to "clean up" any 
>> unnecessary spacing, indentation and whatever in the source-code, 
>> which gives me a pretty small file-size without any compression.

> is it available for public use :D

I think so...
<http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/>
<http://tidy.sourceforge.net/>
...but you'll have to tune it yourself...
<http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_07.html>
...if you want the uncompressed source-code to be as compact as the one
behind my pages.
Your latest revision is 12548 bytes file size, while a run through my
"tuned" Tidy gave me a file size of 11307 bytes - uncompressed.

regards
        Georg
-- 
http://www.gunlaug.no
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