----- Original Message ----- From: "Rafael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'CSS Discussion'" <css-d@lists.css-discuss.org> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Float list items [medium]
> Rick Faircloth wrote: >> Your example below is impressive, Georg, for sure. >> >> But just look at the CSS hoops you had to jump through >> just to get what looks like a simple table. >> >> Why go to so much trouble avoid using <table> ? >> Just because you can or is there a more compelling reason? >> >> I'm relatively new to the CSS scene, so these are sincere questions. >> >> Rick >> > Hi, Rick. > George's example is a quite complex one (from my point of view, > anyway), so that, and the lack of standard support by IE (and some > others?), is probably the reason why you see such code. > > Anyway, back to your question: Why not using a table? As George said > before, that's simply because the data shown is not tabular data. For > tabular data we will understand that which has no sense if not seen in > such a way (tabulated), e.g. a calendar. Now, aside from this, tables > are actually complex elements, and as such, they have been problematic > or "expensive" to deal with by browsers and other softwares (like > screen-readers). > > There are cases, though, where the desired layout calls for the help > of a table, and although basically everyone here would ask you not to > use it (or simply to use another layout) it could be your best or even > only choice. If I recall correctly, George had to make use of JavaScript > to make IE's behave as desired. > > But I went beyond the topic, the point here (and what semantic > markup is about) is to use the actual HTML elements that are supposed to > enclose your data, like using <address> for addresses (of course), <kbd> > for keyboard sample, <code> for code (duh!), <samp> for sample output, > <def> for definitions, <abbr> for abbreviations, <p> for paragraphs, > <dl>+<dt>+<dl> for definition lists (such as glossaries), etc. And not > using <blockquote> just because you want to indent the code, or using > <p><br></p> to add some spacing. > > I hope this helped, and sorry if I bored you along the way. > Rafael. > __________________________________________________________________ 02/21/2008 Hello Rick: As a follow on to Rafal, it is a case of using the right tool for the right job. HTML for structural markup, CSS for layout and style. The business end of the tools aren't broken, it's the handles (the browsers) that tend to have ergonomic problems. Peter www.fatpawdesign.com ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
