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SnoOwl strikes me as a real sincere conspiracy investigator . . . just like
Dan Rather or Ted Koppel is.
Alan Dershowitz revealed on Geraldo the other night that the reason the
left must save Clinton is to thwart the pro-lifers, the Christian
fundamentalists, etc. -- whom he called the forces of evil! -- so that they
do not takeover the country. SnoOwl is obviously a Dershowitz soul-mate, as
are several others on this list. They, like Dershowitz, do not seem to be
sincere debaters, but only bent on calling "white" "black" and "black"
"white" ---- the impeachment of Clinton will tarnish EVERYTHING the man
has done --- that's why the left i frantic, that's why it was worth
dropping their mask to bomb Iraq now --- how many Americans will catch
on????? Every citizen who is an AMERICAN citizen first, as opposed to an
Israeli citizen first, should begin to wonder why all those who want to
save the degenerate Clinton also support the wanton, war-mongering attack
on Iraq. This is the first time we have seen a major prolonged attack on a
sovereign nation who was not already attacking somebody else. We have lost
control of our country, and you don't have to look into shadowy, mysterious
organizations to see who now runs it. It's on your TV every hour, 24 hours
a day when an event like this is on --- those working with AIPAC, the evil
B'nai B'rith, and the Isreali lobby. It's now out in the open for everyone
to see. It is necessary that we have a Christian, dignified, but vigorous
attitude as we move to take back our country like the Catholic Church in
the Middle Ages, and not fall for unjust reactions to unjust aggression
such as was overseen by the evil Adolph Hitler -- who really has turned out
to be the best propaganda weapon that anti-Christ Jewry ever had. Jim
Condit Jr.
On Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:44 PM, M. A. Johnson
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> MJ:
> Reading through this tripe, the consideration of a 'mirror' view
> regarding the Democratic desire to SAVE an accused perjurer who has
> abused his power and his office 'turned' on every word.
>
>
> Sno0wl wrote:
> This "accused perjurer" was accused of saying that he was never
> alone with a woman when, in fact, he was alone with her. Being
> alone with the woman was not, in itself, a crime.
> MJ:
> Correct, but LYING about this under oath in an effort to thwart
> culpability in a civil suit most certainly is ... as well as
> being in conflict with a President's oath of office.
>
>
> Sno0wl wrote:
> This "accused perjurer" is accused of saying that he never had
> "sexual relations" with a certain woman, when in fact he did have
> sexual relations of a sort. Having sexual relations with the woman
> was not a crime.
> MJ:
> Did you investigate the many laws regarding sodomy within the nation's
> capitol? LYING about this under oath in an effort to
> thwart culpability in a civil suit most certainly is ... as
> well as being in conflict with a President's oath of office.
>
>
>
> Sno0wl wrote:
> He is accused of perjury in relation to matters which do not,
> in any way, relate to criminal acts.
> MJ:
> The perjury itself is a criminal act.
>
> No mention of the abuses of office and power utilized to the goal
> of thwarting culpability in that civil manner? Afterall, Mr. Nixon
> was pursued for 'covering up' a crime he did not commit as compared
> to Clinton's desire to do the same for his OWN crimes.
>
>
>
> Sno0wl wrote:
> Many of the most educated people in our nation, including
> distinguished legal scholars and prosecutors who participated
> in the Iran-Contra hearings, cannot believe that Clinton is
> being impeached over these issues. Ken Starr's own ethical
> advisor has quit over these issues. However, all we hear on
> the news is what the ruthless, relentless, vengeful Republican
> members of the Judiciary Committee think, do, and say.
> MJ:
> Certainly one is learned enough to 'wade' through the BS and locate
> primary sourcing ... establishing an opinion for ones self of the
> FACTS.
>
> Hamilton, Federalist Number 65:
>
> A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an
> object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a
> government wholly elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are
> those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or,
> in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.
> They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be
> denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done
> immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for
> this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole
> community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or
> inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect itself with
> the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities,
> partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other;
> and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the
> decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of
> parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.
>
>
> I simply point to our current efforts in Iraq ... the questioning
> of Mr. Clinton's motives in itself demonstrates the 'violation of
> some public trust.' The same accusations occurred when Mr. Clinton
> destroyed a pharmaceutical plant in August.
>
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> Men in public trust will much oftener act in such a manner as
> to render them unworthy of being any longer trusted, than in
> such a manner as to make them obnoxious [subject] to legal
> punishment. -- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No 70
>
> It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people
> believe is true. -- Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd
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