-Caveat Lector-
If there wasn't a war on I would take the time to reply to this
paranoid
racist's delusionary spew. But there is, and there are more important
issues
to deal with than nutty wannabe nazis.
Suffice it to say that American Jews who are still mostly Liberals,
were
specifically targeted by the PR firm spinning this war to oppose "
ethnic
cleansing and genocide " and as a result, are pro-muslim and
anti-Serb.
Most Serbs were the enemies of the Ustashi and Muslim SS units who
were
killing both groups with joyous abandon. I am deeply ashamed of the
gullibility
of my fellow chosenites in supporting this typical American bullying
of small
nations.
Somehow wannabe nazis like Jim Condit Jr. seem to forget that it was
Germany
that started this round of bloodletting in the Balkans by funding and
politically
supporting their old Nazi pals the Croats.
The stuff below is really too idiotic to respond to in detail. But
remember
that Condit is a great admirer of fascist Catholic racists like Fr.
Fahey,
Fr. Coughlin, and the good Catholics of the Ustashi, and German Nazis.
Joshua2
"Jim Condit Jr." wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Sorry to break in on the same note, but Damian Cooper is right. Consult the
> establishment Jewish magazines over the last decade and you'll see that
> smashing the Orthodox Serbs was a priority --- fear of the Orthodox Serbs
> helping the Orthodox Russian part of the Russian military or unity with them
> is a concern to the worldwide Zionist establishment. For BF to ask, what
> proof of there is this type of analysis -- betrays that BF shares with
> apparantly a cast of thousands a proclivity to get lost in the alphabet soup
> conspiracies and ignore what is screaming at them for their televisions,
> radio stations, and news magazines; while there are the group of
> disenfranchised, censored Jews like Naom Chomsky of MIT and the moderator of
> the MER list (I think his name is Brodowsky) tryiing to stem the tide, the
> overwhelming majority of visible Jews, tied in with the Zionist
> establishment, is calling the shots and is reaking vengeance against the
> citizens of Serbia with our US superior weapons. There is no excuse for this
> barbarity. Has anyone noticed that every prominent Jew who was trying to
> save their boy-puppet Clinton in office is now blood-lusting to throw
> American ground troops into Serbia? Let me give you a starting list, and
> then give you some reading that will absolutely "blow your mind" to use the
> outdated vernacular. Here's the list of Save Clinton-Now ground troops
> 'Zionist' Jews: Geraldo Rivera, Larry King, Sen. Joe Lieberman, Sec of Def
> Cohen, Sec of Hate Madeleine Halfbright, Cong. Wexler, Cong. Jerry Adler,
> Charles Grodin, Sen. Arlen Specter -- in fact if anyone can find a prominent
> Jewish leader in politics or media who was for saving Clinton but is now
> against ground troops, please enlighten me.
>
> Now, BF, here's your proof many times over that the Zionist-Jewish
> establishment controls American media, politics, and is the dominant force
> in world affairs, - where the author is Jewish I'll put a -J after their
> name -- the reason for this is that the testimony of Jewish writers is
> obviously more valuable than non-Jews in this area, especially for those who
> think such talk is always related to "anti-Semitism"; here goes: The Zionist
> Connection, Alfred Lilienthal-J; The Zionist Factor, Ivor Benson; The
> Controvery of Zion, Douglas Reed; Open Secrets, Israel Shahak-J; Isreal's
> Sacred Terrorism by Livia Rokach (Livia is a Palestinian but here book in
> based on the diary of high level Israeli leader Moshe Sharett-J, with a
> forward by Noam Chomsky-J; Far And Wide, Douglas Reed; The Kingship of
> Christ and the Conversion of the Jewish Nation, Fr. Denis Fahey; Red
> Symphony, an interview with Rakovsky-J conducted by one of Stalin's men in
> 1938, as Rakovsky was fighting to save his life, and, as one of Rothschild's
> men, he did -- this book is one of the most important documents of the
> century, and it goes a long way toward's kicking the wind out of all those
> misguided modern day Hitler admirers, if it is understood properly; From
> Admiral to Cabin Boy by Admiral Domville; Red Fog over America by Wm Guy
> Carr; Pawns in the Game, Wm Guy Carr; Behind Communism, author escapes me,
> might be Britton; the Red Thread by Andrei Krylienko; And, for those of you
> who are still with me, here's the final blow to the modern brainwashed
> truth-seeker of all types: a whole body of evidence is emerging which
> reveals that both the little Jews and the little Germans, and everyone else,
> was caught in the Pincers of the anti-Christ financiers running the world's
> money, AND that (prepare for brain meltdown) that the founders of Isreal and
> the Nazis cooperated all throughout Hitler's rule -- with the early Zionists
> such as Ben Gurion abandoning hundreds of thousands of Jews to the Nazi
> concentration camps -- which were by and large run by Zionist Jews! No?
> Let's begin again: Perfidy by Ben Hecht-J (Hecht was the screen writer for
> the movie Farewell to Arms, among others - his 1961 book is in major
> libraries, and he was a true believer who helped the other true believers --
> he is obviously himself quite bewildered as he recounts the record; The
> Transfer Agreement: THe secret Pact between the Third Reich and Jewish
> Palestine by Edwin Black-J; The War Agains the Jews - Lucy Dawidowicz-J
> (although Lucy is a cover up artist in some respects, but the evidence is
> there) -- same goes for David Wyman-J, The Abandonment of the Jews, Wyman
> presents evidence he is constantly at a "loss" to explain. Before Hitler
> Came, by Brunder-J, still only in German; In the face of the Gallows, by
> Frank (Hitler's lawyer, himself half-Jewish); . . . One last tidbit with a
> small build-up: The Zionists had to get hundreds of thousands of Jews to
> Palestine for the credible establishment of Israel, which was the first act
> of the United Nations. So these top Zionists had to somehow convince
> hundreds of thousands of unwilling Jews to get to Palestine; A decent man
> named Otto Strasser is overwhelmed in Germany by an upstart socialist named
> Adolph Hitler who received overwhelming money from Wall Street (see Wall
> Street and the Rise of Hitler by Anthony Sutton or WHo Financed Hitler by
> James Poole -- the original 70s edition, as the recent on has 200 pages
> missing) and Rothschild money (talked about by Rakovsky in Red Symphony) who
> begins saber rattling against German Jews; next, International Jewry calls a
> boycott against Germany in 1933 to be lifted when enough Jews are
> transported to Palestine; Next Roosevelt (always best friend to the
> Zionists) closes America for all practical purposes to Jewish Immigration
> from 1935 to 1945 -- Jews are left with one out -- go to Palestine. Now
> here's the tidbit: the first ship carrying Jews to Palestine from Germany
> was captained by a Nazi officer (high up) and the ships name was changed
> from the Hofhausen (crossed out) to Tel Aviv (painted on) AND -- the ship
> flew two flags: the Swastika and the Star of David! Needless to say there's
> much more - but this should keep the plate full for any serious researcher.
> Many of these books are hard to find, but are usually at big library's; some
> are readily available. Best Wishes, Jim Condit Jr. P.S. Nazi official
> Rudolph Hess, who had made the surprise mission to Churchill in 1942 at
> which landing he was jailed till the end of the war -- sat all alone in
> Spandau prison from 1945 to 1989 -- with four countries (US, FRance, USSR,
> and Great Britain) each sending soldiers to guard this big prison with just
> Hess in it -- each country taking one week every month. Why did he sit
> there, never allowed to talk to his family without a NATO official present
> to monitor? He sat there as a warning to all those high officials in
> Britain, Germany and elsewhere who knew about the tranfer agreement between
> the Third Reich and the founders of Israel.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:36 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [prj] Political Insight Into the Origin of the War with
> > Serbia
> >
> >
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> > Damian B. Cooper wrote:
> > >
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> > > A lengthy but interesting analysis into Internationalism's
> > > War of Aggression.
> > >
> > > I've not heard of "Western Forum" before.
> > >
> > > DBC
> > >
> > > >A Western Forum Editorial
> > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Domain: http://westernforum.webjump.com
> > > >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Zionists have their own individual
> > > >interests. At a minimum these interests run parallel to corporate
> > > >interests - i.e., whatever benefits the corporations also happens
> > > >to benefit Israel - but often are simply one and the same thing.
> > > >No one can dispute the extensive Zionist influence in the
> > > >government of the United States since World War I. Today,
> > > >they occupy the majority of the Clinton administration. It
> > > >seems reasonable to conclude that multi-national interests have
> > > >been strongly - if not completely - under Zionist management
> > > >for almost a century. <snip>
> >
> > BF>What proof is there of this? It would appear to me that if Zionism is
> > an outgrowth, in the secular sense, of the Freemasonic-Novus Ordo
> > Seclorum paradigm, though an extension that is not atheistic or
> > globalistic, then it would oppose the interests of the neo-Holy Alliance,
> > or the Rockefeller-multinational-national security state New World Order.
> > And how has America been ruined by "mandatory democracy", as if
> > we had any such thing? Brian Kennedy, or someone, should answer this for
> > me so that I understand, once and for all.
> > The only thing I agree here is that NATO and the US are
> > manipulated in all of this, just as the Slavs are. But Zionists are only
> > a mnaipulated entity too, and are quite a pain in the "tuchus" to both
> > schoolss of orthodox political globalism, even as the yearning for the
> > Messiah may represent a globalist urge of some kind.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Bill Richer
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 1:16 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [CTRL] Kosovo War, planned?
> >
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > THE FOLLOWING new world order INTELLIGENCE UPDATE WAS WRITTEN ON MAY 16,
> > 1998 and refers to the 1996 and 1998 Bilderberg Meetings and Kosovo...
> >
> > (This is me speaking, btw, in these next three paragraphs.)
> >
> > The first time I ever heard the word "Kosovo" was over two years
> > ago in the
> > reports which forecast how the Bilderbergers hoped to bring about a
> > debilitating war of attrition in the heart of Europe with
> > tendrils eventual
> > spreading towards Russia, Syria and Israel. No doubt, in the interim,
> > Bilderberger agents provocateurs have been working full time on
> > all sides to
> > foment the present war. The following is about the 1998 Bilderberg-creep
> > meeting with references to the 1996 meeting.
> >
> > These creeps are hoping this war will spread into Greece, Cyprus, Turkey,
> > Bulgaria, RUSSIA, and finally, involve the US in their nwo malevolence.
> > Lucifer must have some magnificent palaces all ready for these heroes of
> > hell-creeps when they shed their mortal coils - and I do mean coils, as in
> > snakes... Sky dragons? Dracs? And what is the traditional
> > symbol of China?
> > The dragon. Remember, Albania is and always has been a Red
> > Chinese puppet
> > and a drug conduit to the west via the KLA for drugs from China
> > and SE Asia
> > Since what the nwo Intelligence Update's 1996 report said was
> > going to happen
> > has now come to pass in Kosovo in 1999, I re-read the following with great
> > pause because of what it may foreshadow for the entire region (Greece and
> > Turkey and Cyprus) and for Russia and the Middle East and the US. The
> > Bilderberg-made storm clouds are gathering! I am so awestruck by
> > the level
> > of deceit and evil these nwo manipulators are into that I cannot
> > say another
> > word.
> > Brad
> >
> > "The Coming Kosovo War, Greece, Turkey, And Cyprus...
> >
> > "In our June, 1996, Special Report on the Bilderbergers, the New World
> > Order Intelligence Update warned that the globalist elite had planned a
> > Balkans war which would become the "Vietnam of the '90's"; and that, if
> > they could not get such a war going by inflaming the Serbs through the
> > use of NATO "snatch squads" to seize suspected war criminals for trial
> > at the Hague, their plan was to use Kosovo as the flashpoint to ignite a
> > regional conflict which would ultimately embroil the Yugoslav
> > federation, Bosnia, Russia, Greece, Turkey, Albania, Macedonia, the
> > Western European military powers, the United States, and by extension -
> > as allies of Turkey and Greece - Israel and Syria. Now, from virtually
> > nowhere, the well-financed Kosovan Liberation Army has sprung into the
> > limelight and the scene is being set for a Balkan war of unbelievable
> > carnage and merciless hostility.
> >
> > "We further warned that, if the war in Kosovo took too long to engineer
> > or eluded the elite altogether, then their fall-back plan was to create
> > a vicious conflict between Turkey and Greece over Cyprus, and to push
> > the war back into the Balkans area from there."
> >
> >
> > 1998 BILDERBERG MEETING ENDS
> >
> > WAR PLANNED ON CYPRUS IF KOSOVO CRISIS STALLED
> >
> > EUROPEAN-ATLANTIC UNION EYED AS NEXT STEP IN GLOBALISM
> >
> > TRUCULENT JAPAN CAUSING CONCERN REGARDING PLANNED ASIAN UNION
> >
> > [Copyright (c) 1998, New World Order Intelligence Update. This article
> > may be reposted to Internet conferences and Web sites if unaltered and
> > unedited. Prior permission to otherwise reprint or reproduce is
> > required, and may be obtained by contacting John Whitley as detailed
> > below.]
> >
> > CONTACT: John Whitley
> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone 416-481 4868
> > Fax: 416-322 3686
> >
> > TORONTO, 16th May, 1998
> >
> > The 1998 meeting of the secretive and immensely-powerful Bilderberg
> > Group closes tomorrow at the luxurious Turnberry Hotel in Ayrshire,
> > Scotland. The 120 or so Bilderbergers, who normally converge at their
> > pre-selected venue with as much secrecy as possible, had hoped that
> > their selection for the May 14th - 17th conference this year, 15 miles
> > south of Ayr and a quarter of a mile away from the A77 trunk road to
> > Glasgow, would - together with armed and black-clad police at the the
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