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Teo One Thousand wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
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> In a message dated 6/2/99 6:26:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > Well let's assume that we are looking
> >  at an
> >  high security prison for the worst possible offenders. Where are the
> >  gun
> >  deaths? Where are the accidental shootings? Prisoners who want to kill
> >  really have to work hard at it. Mass killings with sharpened spoons
> >  just
> >  don't happen.
> >
> >  The simple straight fact is PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE. Remove
> >  either one
> >  from the equation, and the outcome changes drastically. It is easier
> >  to
> >  remove guns than people from the equation.
> >
> >  That is why it will happen.
> >
> >  Joshua2
> >
>
> I grant your point, even though, as you rightly say, yours is not a perfect
> example.  One must not forget, that in the environment that you have chosen
> for your example there is a much greater degree of control over every action
> of the prisoners.  This is what keeps the death rate down to a great extent,
> not JUST the lack of weapons, notably guns.  I know that you do not advocate
> this type of control on society in general so the analogy is flawed to some
> extent.  However, point taken and conceded.  My own personal opinion on the
> matter is that much more would be gained and in a better fashion if we attack
> the root of much of the death's by shooting that occur.  That is crime.
> Decriminalizing drugs, and some other less drastic means than banning all gun
> ownership, except for law enforcement, are effective, and necessary in my
> opinion, things that could be done to reduce the violent crime rate,
> especially death by gun.
> Teo1000

The issue is much bigger than just crime. If crime stayed as it is
and remained unchanged, or were magically solved as a societal
problem,
the rest of the problems related to guns would still warrant their
removal
from easy access.

Joshua2

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