-Caveat Lector-
There was information on this Phoenician "cargo platform" in the book
"America BC" by Fell. Out of print now, but one of the used book searchers
may locate a copy for you. He covered LOTS of finds in the upper East coast
of the US, with more spotty coverage of the rest of the country. Many
photographs and a removable fold out map really put you in the scene he was
discussing.
AmPat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tatman, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ? (fwd)
>
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> ISTR that the primary evidence for Phoenician or Carthaginian
> landings in
> the Americas is a heavily-eroded monument found in Brazil
> (sorry, can't
> remember when or exactly where). IIRC, near the end of his
> life, the great
> Semitic-language scholar and archaeologist Cyrus Gordon did a rough
> translation of this stone; he believed it to be Phoenician,
> and said that it
> recorded a trading expedition down the coast of West Africa
> that got blown
> badly off course and crashed on the Brazilian coast (near
> Bahia?). They
> worked their way inland and finally wound up totally stranded
> in the Matto
> Grosso.
>
> There are some much more iffy "inscriptions" found in
> Oklahoma, which could
> either be West Semitic script or grooves cut by years of plowing.
>
> Of all the pre-Columbian traders, the Phoenicians were
> certainly the finest
> seafarers. I am not familiar with the New Zealand evidence,
> and will watch
> with interest to see whether some of our Kiwi sistern and brethren can
> contribute more detailed information on these sites. I *have*
> seen some of
> the work of the "radical diffusionist" Heine-Gelderen, who
> believed that
> ancient stoneworks in New Zealand were actually Egyptian in origin.
> Heine-Gelderen is often derided as a crackpot, but recent
> anthropological
> discoveries, such as the DNA/virus link between aboriginal
> populations in
> Japan and Peru, suggest that we have just barely begun to document the
> wanderings of our human ancestors...in short, you really
> *can't* rule out
> the possibility of Phoenicians or Egyptians (or Egyptians
> with a Phoenician
> crew?) reaching New Zealand. I'm not prepared to believe it
> outright, but
> neither am I prepared to *dis*believe it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Kingsbury [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ? (fwd)
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > If anyone has any information about ancient Phoenician landings in
> > America, I would be pleased to hear them. One message had mention
> > of proof that this was so, but did not say what he evidence was.
> >
> > <snip>
>
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