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Dear D.B.Cooper ---
I wanted to say that I totally agree with your analysis. And I would go
further to say that the second question is, what was the nature of this
"state secret", i.e. what's become known as the Holocaust. As I said before,
there is no question that there were rounding ups, killings, brutality ---
but, as I also said in the last email -- the MAIN goal was to get as many
everyday Jewish people in Europe down to Palestine as a prelude to the state
of Israel. If you can find it, track down the excellently written book by
Ben Hecht, the Hollywood Screen writer who worked with David O. Selznick on
Gone with the Wind, and who also wrote the screenplay for "From Here to
Eternity." Hecht supported the most radical sect of the pre-state of Israel
Zionists -- the Irgun. Hecht's book, Perfidy, written in 1961 proves from a
trial inside Israel that Ben Gurion and the boys were working hand in glove
with some of the Nazis, and vice versa -- and that they worked together to
STOP Jews who were working to STOP roundups of Jews by the Nazis. Why?
Because the Top Zionists wanted the roundups, replete with killings, to
scare as many Jews as possible down to Palestine, and to provide the moral
imperative for the existence of the state of Israel. Remember, Ben Hecht is
saying this in Perfidy. And it's very eloquently written, although I, as a
Catholic, totally disagree with Hecht's worldview. .... incidentally, sorry
for such a poorly written previous reply to Kris Millegan, but I kept
getting interrupted and didn't re-read it; but I think the basic sense was
clear. Regarding D.B.Cooper's reply to me, it's not only the Germans who are
treated as collectively guilty of the Holocaust by the Dominant Media --
it's also the Catholic Church; both propaganda thrusts must be vigorously
challenged at all points. Jim Condit Jr.
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> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 11:24 PM
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> At 06:18 PM 2/12/00 -0500, Jim Condit Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> >
> >CertainlyThe question is whether the whole German nation and the
> bulk of the
> >German war machine under Hitler knew this was going on
> >
>
> The contention that the "the whole German nation" knew that there was
> some kind of mass extermination program going on against Jews or
> anyone else is totally absurd. And beyond being absurd, it is bigoted in
> the extreme: it defames an entire ethnic and national origin group and
> provides bigots and extremists a justification for depriving people of
> German, Swiss, or Austrian origin of their human and civil rights.
>
> The treatment and disposition of Jews and other prisoners and detainees of
> the Third Reich was a STATE SECRET. A state secret is not something
> that an authoritarian government shares with the masses.
>
> The reality of the situation is that the German public and almost
> all of the
> military was totally unaware of and had no involvement in the so-called
> "Holocaust".
>
> After WW II, the U.S. and its Allies found to their dismay that the German
> public had little sense of "guilt" for their participation in WW
> II. To them,
> it was defense of their homeland and the overturning of the travesty of
> the Versaille Treaty.
>
> The U.S. government (or more particularly, a vicious cabal of
> insiders such
> as Treaury Secretary Morganthau) made "German guilt" the centerpiece of
> their post-war policy toward Germany. Through propaganda,
> re-education, and political domination, they intended to make the German
> population accept the entire burden of guilt for everything that
> happened in
> WW II (and WW I). This would conveniently exculpate various U.S. and
> Allied industrialists who made vast fortunes in WW II by
> profiteering off the
> "war economy" (It was just such war profits from WW I that was
> the paradigm
> for L'il Orphan Annie's patron, "Daddy Warbucks".) If "the War
> Effort" was
> accepted by the American public as a matter of high minded morality, then
> no questions would be asked, no hearings would be held to look into the
> corruption and profiteering of certain well connected American bigwigs.
> (World War II was not without its "Wag the Dog" element.)
>
> One of the consequences of the U.S. propaganda campaign against Germany
> is that the perception of Germans and Germany has become a totally,
> absurd, false caricature. and the publics of most western European nations
> now easily accept and embrace the most hysterical, exaggerated and false
> stereotypes about the reality experienced by most Germans in WW II.
>
> In reality, there is no question: the German public did not know what was
> going on.
>
> DBC
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