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Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
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> -Caveat Lector-   <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
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> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
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> > -Caveat Lector-   <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> > </A> -Cui Bono?-
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> > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
> > >
> > > -Caveat Lector-   <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> > > </A> -Cui Bono?-
> > >
> > > Maybe we should ask Khazar University (It has a web site). The "Law of
> > > Return" is one of the Constitutional documents of Israel. If I remember
> > > correctly it emphasizes (Anti-Christ) Jewish religion and not biological
> > > race. I think it says if you have a Jewish mother you are considered to be
> > > a Jew (one criterion) but only if you haven't converted to another
> > > religion.
> >
> > This is right. So far so good Poley.
> >
> > > I suppose some world religions are exempt in practice but not
> > > Christianity.
> >
> > Ah, this is the Poley I know and love. WRONG.
>
> I SUPPOSED that one could, for example be a Taoist and a Jew. But I am
> asking and since you are the expert what is the answer?

The answer is...how does the Taoist Jew raise his/her children? Taoist
or Jew. Do they study Taoism or Judaism? How do they identify
PRIMARILY?

> > > Thus the Cohen written up in the local BC Christian News
> > > recently as a convert to Christianity is now excommunicated and does not
> > > have aliyeh rights. His biology hasn't changed.
> >
> > But he is no longer a Jew is he ?
>
> Jews for Jesus said on Larry King recently that they were 100% Jewish and
> 100% Christian so it DEPENDS ON WHOSE OPINION YOU SOLICIT.

No it doesn't. The answer is ridiculous. They are Christians BY
DEFINITION.
If you believe that Christ is Lord then you are a Christian. No Jew
believes
that Christ is Lord. No Muslim believes that Christ is Lord. No Hindu
either.
Only Christians believe that Christ is Lord. What is so complicated
about
this? Jews for Jesus is a lie. I am a Jew for Jesus. They are jewish
converts
to Christianity.

> Or are the
> rabbis of New Khazaria (Israel) saying they have papal infallibility with
> respect to their ecommunications?

Cut the Khazaria shit Poley. It's over. It was a stupid ploy to begin
with.

>  The right of return is only for Jews
> > in the Jewish State. This isn't too difficult to comprehend is it?
>
> It is very clear as long as there is no controversy as to which
> self-professed Jews are the REAL McCOYS, so to speak.

Cut the REAL McCOYS shit Poley. It's over. The Jews are who they say
they are
and it is now genetically indisputable. Deal with it.

> > > These Jews for Jesus are
> > > Pro-Christ Jews by their self-description but they are rejected by the
> > > Anti-Christ Jews.
> >
> > Jews for Jesus ARE NOT JEWS. They are Christians by definition. They
> > believe that Jesus is god. This is ONLY a Christian belief.
>
> But THEIR definition does not prevent them from also being Christians. Why
> is your definition the only right one?

What are you talking about? They ARE Christians. If they also claim to
be
purple toads, that doesn't make them so. There is still reality to
contend
with. No Jew on the planet considers Jews for Jesus to be Jews. Who
else
should make that determination? You?

> > > This is because the teachings of Christ are regarded
> > > as BLASPHEMY by the Israeli Establishment.
> >
> > Ah, now we get into Poleyisms. Fasten your seat belts we are leaving
> > reality.
>
> Why do you think the Sanhedrin was party to the crucifixion of Christ
> 2,000 years ago? The crime was BLASPHEMY...that man could say that God
> spoke through him.

That gospel story is phony. All of the details are unhistorical.

> > The Israeli Establishment is non religious and doesn't give a shit
> > about the teachings of Christ.
>
> If that were true they would have no difficuly with "Jews for Jesus".

What difficulty do they have with JfJ? None. They are no problem at
all.

>  They do however fund and execute many
> > archaeological projects and studies which focus on first century
> > Jewish history in Judea and especially around Jerusalem. They are
> > particularly interested in a group of revolutionary Jews known as The
> > Poor. This group was headed by a devout Jewish leader named Yeshua who
> > was crucified by the Romans for insurrection.
> >
> And the Sanhedrin had no part in this?

No one knows because there is no historical reference to Jesus.

> > After his death, the movement was led by his brother James, and his
> > chief disciple " Peter " who was a known revolutionary.
> >
> > > "God CANNOT be manifested in a
> > > human being" is the succint explanation I think.
> >
> > That is correct. It's called idolatry and is forbidden by Jewish and
> > Muslim law.
>
> Now you agree with my reasoning which you disagreed with above. Praise da
> lo'd! You have seen da' light!
>
> > > However, I have yet to
> > > encounter a rabbi on the Internet who could defend such a theology.
> >
> > It is what it is and doesn't need to be defended. Deification of
> > humans
> > is purely pagan. Paul of Tarsus deified his version of Jesus for the
> > pagans so that they could worship something "new" but still within a
> > context which they understood. Hence the Jewish Jesus became the pagan
> > Christ, a human deity.
>
> Are Christians today PAGANS?

To a large extent yes. Look at your holidays. Christmas and Easter are
pure
pagan with Jesus overlays. Look at the history of the early church.
You don't
really think that December 25 is Jesus' birthday do you. No one knows
what year
he was born much less his specific birth date.

> > > If you
> > > find one put him on.
> > > FWP.
> >
> > Here I am baby.
> >
> > " Rabbi " J2
>
> Hallelujah!!! When are you going to start with setting the matter
> straight?
> FWP.

I already did. But here Poley. Look at it again.

> > But only Jews can trace back to Temple times which predates the
> > expulsion
> > of the " lost tribes."
> >
> > The genetic identification of the Cohen gene makes it more likely that
> > Aharon and
> > his brother Moshe were real rather than legendary characters. Aharon
> > was the
> > first Cohen and only his descendants were Cohanim. Priests.
> >
> > The Cohanim were obliged to keep to much stricter marriage rules than
> > was
> > the general population. IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT THE COHEN GENE
> > REMAINED
> > DISTINCT FOR ALL THESE CENTURIES.
> >
> > > > The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew,
> > > > 'Israelite', Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously
> > > > to suggest a historic continuity.
> >
> > And this has in fact turned out to be the case.

All Jewish populations from all over the world have this genetic link
Poley.
The Chinese Jews have it. The Black Jews of Zimbabwe have it. Moroccan
Jews
have it. AND the European Jews have it. Therefore they are not Khazars
but
the People of the Book. The Israelites of the Bible. THE DESCENDENTS
OF AARON
WHO IS THE SOURCE OF THE GENETIC MARKERS because only his offspring
and their
descendents can be Kohanim.

Europe's Jews are the real McCoy.

And you are not.

Joshua2

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