It's actually quite a bit more than a "...regurgitated form of amoral
Hindu pantheism..."  It's a mathematically quantifiable and testable
hypothesis.

David Sutherland wrote:
>
[snipped]
>
> The so-called "Holographic Universe" is merely a regurgitated form of amoral
> Hindu Pantheism, which in itself is a fundamentally slavish dogma that
> craves the subjugation and dissolution of the individual spirit into the
> communist-like universal "oneness".
>
[snipped]


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tenebroust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand
>
> > Thank you Bob!  What a great article, it fits in nicely with my own views
> of "reality" as we "know" it.  It is nice to know that there are some "real"
> scientists out there who hold this view of reality as Maya.  It opens up
> worlds of possibilities.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 April 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know
> the
> > > origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but
> it
> > > is an eye opener -- among
> > > other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of
> contagion."
> > >
> > > My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus*
> that
> > > "reality is a consensus statement."
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ambrose Hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <snipped>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
> > > Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Universe as a Hologram
> > > >
> > > > Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
> > > >
> > > > In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
> > > > research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn
> out to
> > > > be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did
> not
> > > > hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the
> habit of
> > > > reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard
> Aspect's
> > > > name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the
> face
> > > of
> > > > science.
> > > >
> > > > Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances
> subatomic
> > > > particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate
> with
> > > > each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't
> matter
> > > > whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each
> particle
> > > > always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this
> feat
> > > is
> > > > that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
> > > travel
> > > > faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed
> of
> > > > light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting
> prospect
> > > has
> > > > caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to
> explain
> > > away
> > > > Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more
> radical
> > > > explanations.
> > > >
> > > > University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes
> Aspect's
> > > > findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
> > > > apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
> > > > splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this
> startling
> > > > assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A
> hologram
> > > is
> > > > a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
> > > >
> > > > To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in
> the
> > > > light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
> > > reflected
> > > > light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area
> where
> > > > the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
> > > > developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines.
> But
> > > as
> > > > soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
> > > > three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
> > > >
> > > > The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
> > > > characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half
> and
> > > then
> > > > illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
> > > entire
> > > > image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
> > > > snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
> > > version
> > > > of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a
> hologram
> > > > contains all the information possessed by the whole.
> > > >
> > > > The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
> > > entirely
> > > > new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its
> history,
> > > > Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to
> understand
> > > a
> > > > physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and
> study
> > > > its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
> > > universe
> > > > may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
> > > something
> > > > constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is
> > > made,
> > > > we will only get smaller wholes.
> > > >
> > > > This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's
> > > > discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to
> remain
> > > > in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them
> is
> > > > not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and
> > > forth,
> > > > but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some
> > > deeper
> > > > level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are
> > > > actually extensions of the same fundamental something.
> > > >
> > > > To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the
> > > > following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine
> > > also
> > > > that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge
> about
> > > it
> > > > and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed
> at
> > > the
> > > > aquarium's front and the other directed at its side.As you stare at
> the
> > > two
> > > > television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the
> screens
> > > > are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at
> different
> > > > angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you
> continue
> > > > to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware that there is
> a
> > > > certain relationship between them. When one turns, the other also
> makes a
> > > > slightly different but corresponding turn; when one faces the front,
> the
> > > > other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of the full
> > > scope
> > > > of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must be
> > > > instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly
> not
> > > the
> > > > case.
> > > >
> > > > This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic
> > > > particles in Aspect's experiment. According to Bohm, the apparent
> > > > faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really
> telling
> > > > us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more
> > > > complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium.
> And,
> > > he
> > > > adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one
> > > > another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such
> > > > particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more
> > > > underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as
> the
> > > > previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is
> > > > comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a
> > > > hologram.
> > > >
> > > > In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess
> other
> > > > rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic
> > > > particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all
> > > things
> > > > in the universe are infinitely interconnected.The electrons in a
> carbon
> > > atom
> > > > in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that
> comprise
> > > > every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that
> > > > shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and
> although
> > > > human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the
> > > > various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity
> > > > artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web.
> > > >
> > > > In a holographic universe, even time and space could no longer be
> viewed
> > > as
> > > > fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a
> universe
> > > in
> > > > which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and
> > > > three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV
> monitors,
> > > > would also have to be viewed as projections of this deeper order. At
> its
> > > > deeper level reality is a sort of superhologram in which the past,
> > > present,
> > > > and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the
> proper
> > > > tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the
> superholographic
> > > > level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long-forgotten past.
> > > >
> > > > What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question.
> Allowing,
> > > > for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that
> has
> > > > given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it
> contains
> > > > every subatomic particle that has been or will be -- every
> configuration
> > > of
> > > > matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to quasars, from
> blue
> > > > whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of cosmic storehouse
> of
> > > > "All That Is."
> > > >
> > > > Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might
> lie
> > > > hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no
> reason
> > > > to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the
> > > > superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies
> "an
> > > > infinity of further development".Bohm is not the only researcher who
> has
> > > > found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently
> in
> > > the
> > > > field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has
> also
> > > > become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality.
> > > >
> > > > Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and
> where
> > > > memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have
> shown
> > > > that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are
> > > > dispersed throughout the brain. In a series of landmark experiments in
> the
> > > > 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion
> of a
> > > > rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to
> > > > perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only
> problem
> > > was
> > > > that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain
> this
> > > > curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.
> > > >
> > > > Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and
> > > realized
> > > > he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for.
> > > Pribram
> > > > believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of
> > > neurons,
> > > > but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in
> the
> > > > same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the
> entire
> > > > area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other
> words,
> > > > Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.
> > > >
> > > > Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many
> > > > memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human
> brain
> > > has
> > > > the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of
> > > > information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same
> amount
> > > of
> > > > information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).
> > > > Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other
> > > > capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information
> > > > storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a
> > > piece
> > > > of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images
> on
> > > the
> > > > same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of
> film
> > > can
> > > > hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
> > > >
> > > > Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need
> from
> > > > the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the
> > > brain
> > > > functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to
> > > tell
> > > > him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have
> to
> > > > clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file
> to
> > > > arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped",
> "horselike",
> > > and
> > > > "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly.Indeed, one
> of
> > > > the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every
> > > piece
> > > > of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other
> piece of
> > > > information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every
> > > > portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other
> > > portion,
> > > > it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.
> > > >
> > > > The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that
> > > becomes
> > > > more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain.
> > > Another
> > > > is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it
> > > > receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so
> on)
> > > > into the concrete world of our perceptions. Encoding and decoding
> > > > frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram
> > > > functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an
> > > > apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image,
> Pribram
> > > > believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic
> principles
> > > to
> > > > mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses
> into
> > > > the inner world of our perceptions.
> > > >
> > > > An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses
> holographic
> > > > principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has
> > > gained
> > > > increasing support among neurophysiologists. Argentinian-Italian
> > > researcher
> > > > Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world
> of
> > > > acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the
> source
> > > of
> > > > sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing
> in
> > > one
> > > > ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this
> > > > ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic
> sound,
> > > a
> > > > recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an
> almost
> > > > uncanny realism.
> > > >
> > > > Pribram's belief that our brains mathematically construct "hard"
> reality
> > > by
> > > > relying on input from a frequency domain has also received a good deal
> of
> > > > experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is
> > > sensitive
> > > > to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously
> > > > suspected.Researchers have discovered, for instance, that our visual
> > > systems
> > > > are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is in part
> > > > dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that even
> the
> > > > cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of frequencies.
> Such
> > > > findings suggest that it is only in the holographic domain of
> > > consciousness
> > > > that such frequencies are sorted out and divided up into conventional
> > > > perceptions.
> > > >
> > > > But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of
> the
> > > > brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For
> if
> > > the
> > > > concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is
> "there"
> > > is
> > > > actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a
> > > > hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and
> > > > mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes
> of
> > > > objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the
> religions
> > > of
> > > > the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion,
> and
> > > > although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical
> > > > world, this too is an illusion. We are really "receivers" floating
> through
> > > a
> > > > kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and
> > > > transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many
> extracted
> > > > out of the superhologram.
> > > >
> > > > This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and
> Pribram's
> > > > views, has come to be called the holographic paradigm, and although
> many
> > > > scientists have greeted it with skepticism, it has galvanized others.
> A
> > > > small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most
> accurate
> > > > model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some
> > > > believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been
> > > explainable
> > > > by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature.
> > > >
> > > > Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many
> > > > para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms
> of
> > > the
> > > > holographic paradigm. In a universe in which individual brains are
> > > actually
> > > > indivisible portions of the greater hologram and everything is
> infinitely
> > > > interconnected, telepathy may merely be the accessing of the
> holographic
> > > > level. It is obviously much easier to understand how information can
> > > travel
> > > > from the mind of individual 'A' to that of individual 'B' at a far
> > > distance
> > > > point and helps to understand a number of unsolved puzzles in
> psychology.
> > > In
> > > > particular, Grof feels the holographic paradigm offers a model for
> > > > understanding many of the baffling phenomena experienced by
> individuals
> > > > during altered states of consciousness.
> > > >
> > > > In the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a
> > > > psychotherapeutic tool, Grof had one female patient who suddenly
> became
> > > > convinced she had assumed the identity of a female of a species of
> > > > prehistoric reptile. During the course of her hallucination, she not
> only
> > > > gave a richly detailed description of what it felt like to be
> encapsuled
> > > in
> > > > such a form, but noted that the portion of the male of the species's
> > > anatomy
> > > > was a patch of colored scales on the side of its head. What was
> startling
> > > to
> > > > Grof was that although the woman had no prior knowledge about such
> things,
> > > a
> > > > conversation with a zoologist later confirmed that in certain species
> of
> > > > reptiles colored areas on the head do indeed play an important role as
> > > > triggers of sexual arousal.
> > > >
> > > > The woman's experience was not unique. During the course of his
> research,
> > > > Grof encountered examples of patients regressing and identifying with
> > > > virtually every species on the evolutionary tree (research findings
> which
> > > > helped influence the man-into-ape scene in the movie Altered States).
> > > > Moreover, he found that such experiences frequently contained obscure
> > > > zoological details which turned out to be accurate.
> > > >
> > > > Regressions into the animal kingdom were not the only puzzling
> > > psychological
> > > > phenomena Grof encountered. He also had patients who appeared to tap
> into
> > > > some sort of collective or racial unconscious. Individuals with little
> or
> > > no
> > > > education suddenly gave detailed descriptions of Zoroastrian funerary
> > > > practices and scenes from Hindu mythology. In other categories of
> > > > experience, individuals gave persuasive accounts of out-of-body
> journeys,
> > > of
> > > > precognitive glimpses of the future, of regressions into apparent
> > > past-life
> > > > incarnations.
> > > >
> > > > In later research, Grof found the same range of phenomena manifested
> in
> > > > therapy sessions which did not involve the use of drugs. Because the
> > > common
> > > > element in such experiences appeared to be the transcending of an
> > > > individual's consciousness beyond the usual boundaries of ego and/or
> > > > limitations of space and time, Grof called such manifestations
> > > > "transpersonal experiences", and in the late '60s he helped found a
> branch
> > > > of psychology called "transpersonal psychology" devoted entirely to
> their
> > > > study.
> > > >
> > > > Although Grof's newly founded Association of Transpersonal Psychology
> > > > garnered a rapidly growing group of like-minded professionals and has
> > > become
> > > > a respected branch of psychology, for years neither Grof or any of his
> > > > colleagues were able to offer a mechanism for explaining the bizarre
> > > > psychological phenomena they were witnessing. But that has changed
> with
> > > the
> > > > advent of the holographic paradigm.
> > > >
> > > > As Grof recently noted, if the mind is actually part of a continuum, a
> > > > labyrinth that is connected not only to every other mind that exists
> or
> > > has
> > > > existed, but to every atom, organism, and region in the vastness of
> space
> > > > and time itself,the fact that it is able to occasionally make forays
> into
> > > > the labyrinth and have transpersonal experiences no longer seems so
> > > strange.
> > > >
> > > > The holographic paradigm also has implications for so-called hard
> sciences
> > > > like biology. Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont
> College,
> > > has
> > > > pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a holographic
> > > > illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces
> > > > consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the appearance
> of
> > > > the brain as well as the body and everything else around us we
> interpret
> > > as
> > > > physical.
> > > >
> > > > Such a turnabout in the way we view biological structures has caused
> > > > researchers to point out that medicine and our understanding of the
> > > healing
> > > > process could also be transformed by the holographic paradigm. If the
> > > > apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic
> projection of
> > > > consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more
> responsible
> > > for
> > > > our health than current medical wisdom allows. What we now view as
> > > > miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in
> > > > consciousness which in turn effect changes in the hologram of the
> body.
> > > >
> > > > Similarly, controversial new healing techniques such as visualization
> may
> > > > work so well because in the holographic domain of thought images are
> > > > ultimately as real as "reality".Even visions and experiences involving
> > > > "non-ordinary" reality become explainable under the holographic
> paradigm.
> > > In
> > > > his book "Gifts of Unknown Things," biologist Lyall Watson describes
> his
> > > > encounter with an Indonesian shaman woman who, by performing a ritual
> > > dance,
> > > > was able to make an entire grove of trees instantly vanish into thin
> air.
> > > > Watson relates that as he and another astonished onlooker continued to
> > > watch
> > > > the woman, she caused the trees to reappear, then "click" off again
> and on
> > > > again several times in succession.
> > > >
> > > > Although current scientific understanding is incapable of explaining
> such
> > > > events, experiences like this become more tenable if "hard" reality is
> > > only
> > > > a holographic projection.Perhaps we agree on what is "there" or "not
> > > there"
> > > > because what we call consensus reality is formulated and ratified at
> the
> > > > level of the human unconscious at which all minds are infinitely
> > > > interconnected.If this is true, it is the most profound implication of
> the
> > > > holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as
> > > Watson's
> > > > are not commonplace only because we have not programmed our minds with
> the
> > > > beliefs that would make them so. In a holographic universe there are
> no
> > > > limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.
> > > >
> > > > What we perceive as reality is only a canvas waiting for us to draw
> upon
> > > it
> > > > any picture we want. Anything is possible, from bending spoons with
> the
> > > > power of the mind to the phantasmagoric events experienced by
> Castaneda
> > > > during his encounters with the Yaqui brujo don Juan, for magic is our
> > > > birthright, no more or less miraculous than our ability to compute the
> > > > reality we want when we are in our dreams.Indeed, even our most
> > > fundamental
> > > > notions about reality become suspect, for in a holographic universe,
> as
> > > > Pribram has pointed out, even random events would have to be seen as
> based
> > > > on holographic principles and therefore determined. Synchronicities or
> > > > meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and everything in
> reality
> > > > would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even the most haphazard
> events
> > > > would express some underlying symmetry.
> > > >
> > > > Whether Bohm and Pribram's holographic paradigm becomes accepted in
> > > science
> > > > or dies an ignoble death remains to be seen,but it is safe to say that
> it
> > > > has already had an influence on the thinking of many scientists. And
> even
> > > if
> > > > it is found that the holographic model does not provide the best
> > > explanation
> > > > for the instantaneous communications that seem to be passing back and
> > > forth
> > > > between subatomic particles, at the very least, as noted by Basil
> Hiley, a
> > > > physicist at Birbeck College in London, Aspect's findings "indicate
> that
> > > we
> > > > must be prepared to consider radically new views of reality".
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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