Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>
> At 01:14 AM 26, 05, , 2000 EDT, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 5/24/00 10:34:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> BUT one must not think that your ideas are beyond criticism, SO if you post
> >> then there will be people who disagree, and if you have a theory some may
> >> want proof in support of it.
> >
> >  I'd never dream that my ideas are above criticism, and never once implied
> >otherwise.  I think the screech level that arises on this list when anyone
> >brings up the subject of UFOs is quite telling.  There's plenty of evidence,
> >anecdotal and otherwise, that unidentified objects have been flying in our
> >skies for a century or more.  There's evidence, not proof.  But what do any
> >of us have that is proof of anything?  Have you ever met Clinton?  Are you
> >sure he exists?  Could he be a digital image?  If you met him, can you prove
> >he wasn't a cyborg?  I mean, get real.
> >
> >Samantha

Hey Samantha,'get real' is not a figure of speech you use literally. Right?

>
> thanks samantha - I was going to use the china argument - if you've never
> been there and touched it - how do you know it physically exists.

This is PURE BULLSHIT. And stupid to boot.

You KNOW China exists and so do the rest of us. The existence of China is
an agreed upon fact. If you doubt the existence of China, it's because
there is a problem with your mind, and not with the existence of China.

This is what I pointed out in a
previous post about guys like you damaging others' psyches. You can't prove
your point because it's not real. So what do you need to do? You need to
destroy in a healthier mind than yours, the 'obviously true' by imposing doubt
of perception when it isn't there. This is ( low quality ) mind control for
purely selfish purposes. This is an act of violence against people's minds.
It's called a mind fuck. It's what we don't like when the government, or
commercial advertisers subject us to the vary same thing.

> There is as much 'proof' for china as there is for ufo's - in fact the
> physical proof of ets and their DNA already exists from a strand of hair
> analysed after an abduction in australia etc
> Its a form of debate called Logical Realism 'touch verification theory' and
> in the case of ufo's [with miles of camcorder footage from all over the
> planet - really massive compilations of footsge, archaeological evidence
> etc] - is used out of context here on this list.
>
> There's nothing wrong with trying to be rational - but much in the same way
> that we should run with the inductive hypothesis that there is a place
> called china - and see where it leads - see where the conspiracy is - so we
> should be running with the not very vast conjectural leap that there are
> ETs - and see where that leads - where the conspiracy is.
>
> Lets all rationally analyse the belief system that there are ETs colluding
> with government agencies - an analysis prevented by the denial of ETs.
>
> andrew
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