.............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: endsecrecy list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [endsecrecy] Delta Force Took Part In Waco Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:37 AM From: http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb1075995&MyNum=960957 462&P=Yes&TL=960957050 (Thanks to EcoToday for this item. Go directly to the url for an extensive list of Waco links. Remy C.) A secret military organization took part in the raid at Waco Wednesday, 14-Jun-2000 THIS MESSAGE POSTED TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 From: "v kepler" Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ucnsb.net The Night is Ours A secret military organization took part in the raid at Waco, Texas, and has been training in civilian areas using live fire. It often ventures into civilian areas without permission from local authorities, according to a former member. The Combat Applications Group is the secret organization within the Special Operations Command operating out of several military bases. "Presidential Decision Directive 25 is the authority given to them to operate and to be not covered by posse comitatus. This is the Delta Force. It's also known as the CAG (Combat Applications Group). That's a cover name for their organization behind the fence at Ft. Bragg, (North Carolina)," explained a former Special Forces member who spoke to WorldNetDaily on condition of anonymity. PDD 25 has been classified as top secret. All that is available to the public is an executive summary. Details of the document will be detailed in another article in this series. Members of the elite Delta Force and Night Stalkers are carefully selected and screened from Special Forces and other groups in all branches of the military. The CAG is primarily run by the Rangers, according to a source, who has many years of experience with both the group, and with clandestine operations. The Night Stalkers are actually the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment Airborne. Their job is to transport Delta Force troops to an area for a mission, then retrieve them. They are experts at flying black-painted helicopters just over treetops in the dark of night using special night vision equipment. Their motto is "Death waits in the dark." They wear emblems that combine Greek mythology and occult symbols. "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him . . . to kill with sword and with hunger, and with death," reads the Night Stalkers creed, taken from Revelation 6:8 in the Bible. The Night Stalkers have a website filled with occult symbols of death, Greek mythical symbols, and writings mocking the creation story of the Bible, among many references to killing and death. It is no wonder why so many military members have expressed concern over this group. A source confirmed the Night Stalkers and Delta Force were involved in the raid at Waco. They considered it a great opportunity for training and experience. Delta Force soldiers are handpicked and are trained killers. They are expert at rescuing hostages, SWAT operations and surprise raids to kill an enemy. "Yes indeed, these are the same people that were at the back of the (Waco) compound -- not the FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team). They were at the back of the compound at Waco and were shooting the people coming out. I did see the FLIRS (special films) at SOCOM (Special Operations Command). The HRT is a clone of them. They work very closely with the HRT," explained a knowledgeable source who requested anonymity. The equipment used by the FBI HRT is identical to that used by the Delta Force. Whenever an HRT deploys, they use the Night Stalkers to get them in and out. The Night Stalkers and Delta Force were recently confirmed to be involved in Operation Last Dance, conducting live-fire raids on sites in civilian areas in parts of Texas. Army public affairs officers claim the civilian sites are used because the elite forces get bored using military bases for training. "In a manner to justify their fairly large budget, they have been performing these exercises. Not that they just get bored. It's political empire type things. Pretty vainly in some respects. In order to justify their budgets, and in order to keep them alive," said one source. The Night Stalkers left Texas ready to plan similar exercises in some other unsuspecting U.S. neighborhood. They left behind a storm of controversy and frightened residents who have not stopped complaining. Some are even planning legal action. "They usually pay for all their damage by the way. They have a bag person there, and they usually pay for all their damage with cash. You just make a claim to them and they pay you off right there on the spot," claimed the source. City officials in Kingsville, Texas, where Operation Last Dance began, confirm that the Army Special Forces Command from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, has paid for the destruction of one building and the heavy damage to another. Some military sources, too, are concerned with the way the CAG has evolved, and he is very concerned about the way the group has been granted authority to do just about anything with total immunity from the law, including the Posse Comitatus Act. "They will follow and do whatever the president tells them to do. In that regard, they are somewhat dangerous," said one source of his concerns about PDD 25. He claims the CAG forces were used by the FBI in the raid at Waco. He said he was repulsed when he personally observed films of the raid, known as FLIRS, in the U.S. SOCOM offices. Others watching were not affected in the same way. "They (Delta Force) were shooting people who were coming out of the building," the source described. He said they considered Waco an opportunity for training. "Everything is training for them. You train like you fight and you fight like you train. There's very little distinction between the two," he said. The Delta Force wore the same black SWAT-style uniform as the FBI HRT agents, with the exception of a small insignia. "The U.S. SOCOM released them and then they were under the direct control of the Department of Justice," explained the source. "Their orders did not come from U.S. SOCOM." "I saw those FLIRS right after the action. There was no gasping, or anything like that, which I found to be somewhat repugnant." "That's why I wanted to make a distinction between them (CAG) and the Special Forces, because the real Special Forces are really not into that activity of going in and rousting up people or hostage rescue. Special Forces still has a special operations mission, of course. They do fall under the posse comitatus act. They do not work here in the United States." "There's the white side and the black side. Special Forces are generally on the white side and the CAG is on the black side," he explained. This source is not a fan of Delta Force. He doesn't like the way it operates, the character of the people involved, or their commander-in-chief, President Bill Clinton. He says the Delta Force is made up of programmed soldiers who don't think for themselves. "Delta Force is particularly screened. That's why they don't have many Special Forces people in there. Typically they are Rangers who are less thoughtful about what they are required to do and will fire when ordered to. Whereas the regular Special Forces guy is trained to think. He knows difference between a lawful order and an unlawful order. "If they are told to shoot somebody they will shoot them, you know, without question," claims the source. He says the Delta Force operations taking place around the country will continue because they are trying to create a need for their organization, and thereby justify their existence. He also says the actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco were also a test to see if the American public would tolerate such actions. "We failed a test with Ruby Ridge and Waco. The American people failed miserably. These were obvious tests, in a manner of speaking. They wanted to see how the American people would react to this thing. Why in the world would you attack somebody like David Koresh? I mean with the forces that they did," he lamented. Former Night Stalker, Sgt. Jeff Norgrove, a crew chief on one of the controversial black helicopters, confirmed what the source disclosed. He said live-fire exercises have taken place for many years and are on the increase. He also claims exercises often take place over U.S. cities with no permission from any local authorities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. 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