Friends,
> Number one, after reading your post here, I couldn't consider you to be
one of my friends.
This crap must stop - and immediately. None of the "organizations"
and "authorities" who are now acting like gestapo agents against the
Boy Scouts of America seem not to realize that they do not have a dime
to distribute or control except for the contributions or taxes of thousands
of citizens who very likely feel very differently.
> I don't know where you live, but in MA, many of the "taxpaying" citizens
had no issues when the school board in Framingham passed the inclusion of
"sexual orientation" in their discrimination text.
And, school "boards" and "authorities" had better listen up and
come to a realization they are NOT in fact the Gestapo Headquarters
in determining what rules, edicts and demands are to be followed by
parents and students alike simply because they say so.
> Yes, god forbid that the school board act as "Gestapo agents" like the
rest of people like you. If we can all remember back to the Hitler regime
and their "we are better than you" concepts, actions of the BSA start to
strike home.
Folks, you'd better start applying some very strong pressure to the
authoritarian nut cases in our country who believe that they run things
and decide whether or not "they" will support a particular organization,
simply because these groups stand up for what we all know to be
MORALLY RIGHT.
> The last time I checked, every person has the opportunity to attend the
board meetings and speak their mind. Your concept of "MORALLY RIGHT" is
very skewed. Perhaps individuals like yourself need to wake up. A new
generation of young people have no issues with the need for individuality.
They accept people for who they are, no some skewed perception of morals
that your generation has created. And besides aren't morals created by the
majority of a population. Your perspective is becoming less of a majority.
School Superintendent Mark Smith desperately needs to be sent packing,
as the first in a long line of despots who are not afraid to make these
kinds
of lunatic unilateral decisions which fly in the face of what every
traditional
American knows to be true and just.
> Now I am not a traditional American. All because I don't agree with your
viewpoints. I stand back, view the situation, and congratulate Mark Smith
and his school board for the decision that they have made. It is about time
that people stand up for what they believe in, not some skewed perception of
traditions and morals that your generation has created. I think like any
human being, you are upset that the world that you helped to create for a
younger generation is not going the way you like it, and now you are having
a hissy fit.
>Remember that all parents have the choice to raise their children the way
they see fit, and you have "options." Wow there's a concept. If you don't
like the way the school board is running things, you have the option to
withdraw your children, home school them, or send them to a parochial
school. And if you don't have children, then sit back with me and look at
other conspiracies the government is involved in that are KILLING OUR
CIVILIANS, rather than wasting your efforts on something like this.
Homosexual populations estimates range from anywhere from 5-10% of our
population, and I can't see why the government would have an interest in
increasing that population rather than getting itself involved in much more
profitable and highly secret plots and conspiracies.
> In the meantime, STOP WASTING MY BANDWIDTH WITH "YOUR CRAP"
This crap MUST STOP.
Bill Ball
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> On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 13:49:07 -0600, spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Source:
> MetroWest Town Online: Framingham, Massachusetts
> http://www.townonline.com/metrowest/
>
> School bans Boy Scouts recruitment
>
http://www.townonline.com/metrowest/framingham/news/0-9097_0_school_090200_c
029360308.html
>
> September 2, 2000
>
> By MICHELLE HILLMAN NEWS STAFF WRITER
>
> FRAMINGHAM -- School Superintendent Mark Smith, reacting to the Boy
Scouts'
> ban on gays, says he will no longer allow the organization's local chapter
> to hand out information or recruit members on school grounds.
>
> The chapter, called the Knox Trail Council, will still be able to hold
> meetings in Framingham school buildings, providing they don't send
children
> home with any information about the Boy Scouts.
>
> Smith said his decision was prompted by the local council's support of the
> Boy Scouts of America's policy of excluding both gay scout leaders and
> homosexual scouts.
>
> Dennis Prefontaine, a scout executive, who met with Smith earlier this
> month, was not available for comment.
>
> Smith said Framingham's schools have a strong commitment to respecting
> differences and diversity, and said the Boy Scouts' policy to exclude
> certain people is in direct conflict with those standards.
>
> He said he would take the same stance against any group that excludes
> people on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity or sex.
>
> So far, Smith has not banned any other groups from disseminating
> information through the schools.
>
> "This is not targeted at the Boy Scouts," said Smith, who has been
weighing
> the new policy since the high court ruling was handed down in June. "In
> fact, my hope would be that the local or national chapter would change
> their policy. I think very highly of the Boy Scouts and what they do for
> children."
>
> The U.S. Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that the Boy Scouts are
> permitted to deny participation of a gay youth or adult because they are a
> private organization, and therefore do not have to abide by laws
> prohibiting discrimination in public accommodations.
>
> If the Knox Council does change it's mind and decides to support the
> inclusion of all students, Smith said he would review the policy.
>
> John Roberts, executive director of the Civil Liberties Union of
> Massachusetts, said the School Department's new policy treads a fine line
> between upholding the rights of students and the Council's First Amendment
> rights to freedom of assembly and free expression.
>
> "It's a very interesting cut here," said Roberts. "It's a clash of
> constitutional principles."
>
> Because Framingham's School Department has a policy of inclusion, Roberts
> said it may refuse the Boy Scouts permission to hand out material on
school
> grounds that contradicts that policy. But he said the department may not
> keep them from using school buildings.
>
> Smith said that is exactly the reason the decision was made the way it
was.
>
> Smith said he spoke with school principals and members of the School
> Committee about the controversy before issuing the policy. He said they
> agreed that the Scouts' position fails to benefit students educationally
or
> enhance the schools' curriculum -- key criteria of the schools'
> solicitation policy.
>
> Smith said it's possible that the School Committee might review the
> building policy that grants use of grounds and buildings to various
> groups. Currently the policy allows all groups to use buildings
regardless
> of whether they discriminate.
>
> Smith said he didn't know of any other school districts in the state that
> permit local Boy Scout chapters, which exclude gays, to hand out
literature
> on school grounds.
>
> "I think organizations that have non-discriminatory provisions ... would
> be forced to (re)consider their relationship with any private organization
> that excludes children and adults based on sexual orientation," Smith
said.
>
> To learn more about the pro sodomite viewpoint in Massachusetts click
below.
>
> Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex
> http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htm
>
> PROVINCETOWN INTRODUCES SODOMY TO PRESCHOOLERS
> http://www.thewinds.org/archive/family/gay_agenda8-97.html
>
> Please keep replies trimmed. That includes that annoying advertisement
above - chas
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