-Caveat Lector-

I have just a few problems with this DUI story. One, Dubya's verbal evasions
refer to it only as the "mistakes" made in his "youth."  Despite the fact
that, as we get older, we tend to see all significantly younger people as
"young," I think most people, myself included, don't include age 30--the age
at which Dubya drank and drove (and got caught, because if he got caught
once, statistics say he did it a hundred times more) in the concept of
"youth." Gosh, those "youngsters" are usually thought of as teenagers. I
think we need to investigate the Texas troupers' records of later
years--including arrests that Daddy Bush had wiped--rather than just
reacting to this one report.
    Second, Bush has said he stopped drinking '14 years ago"--which would
make him 40--10 years AFTER the arrest. He says of the arrest "I learned my
lesson!" but apparently the learning took 10 years to sink in. In between
times, he appears to have been adrinkin' and adrivin', and just not atellin'
Ole Daddy Bush. If dumbbell Dubya is elected, and it takes him ten years to
learn a lesson, he'll be out of office before he "larns his lesson!" if he
makes mistakes that cause disaster to the country wrong-headed enough to
elect him.
    Why is this important?  For one thing,  WHERE ARE THE MOTHERS AGAINST
DRUNK DRIVERS--MADD--IN THIS DISCUSSION?  HOW HAVE THEY BEEN SILENCED?????
Presently, drinking and driving is viewed as a heinous and irresponsible
crime. In California, where I live, ONE DUI ARREST ( at only .08 blood
alcohol--Dubya's was .12--half again as high) will cost drivers automatic
license revocation for three months, AND they need to go to behaviorial
school, AND they get mopped through the court system for a year, the
insurance company cancels them and they need special insurance policies.
'Two friends told me ruefully that their (first and only) DUIs cost them
$10,000 apiece. Jail is also a possibility for the judge to impose.
    Why aren't these "concerned mothers" speaking up? Have they been either
bought off--or terrorized into silence--by Dubya's campaign coerscion
specialists?
    Parallel question:  what about Dubya's compulsive tastes for cocaine?
WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SOLD IT TO HIM!!!! WHERE ARE ALL THE
ACQUAINTANCES WHO KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT HE WAS DOING!!! Same question: by what
strongarm methods have THEY  been silenced during the election?
    The first election I remember directly is the 1960 one, Kennedy vs.
Nixon. Every election from that one forward has eloquently demonstrated that
each side plays dirty pool; I cheerfully admit that the political process
largely disgusts me. Yet I cannot EVER remember a candidate so OBVIOUSLY
DERELICT, lamebrained, owned-by-conniving-corporate-interests and
MOTIVATIONALLY AND INTELLECTUALLY unqualified as Bush is. I can only assume
that the largescale corporate ownership of the media has put a blockade
between the truth about this degenerate scumbag and the public's need to
know, and a falsifying spin on every embarassing fact that nevertheless
manages (as this DUI story did) to escape the censorship barricade. I only
wish all the mothers and neighborhood activists who scream so loudly against
"drunk drivers!" and "protecting our children against drugs!" would scream
now.
Jenny Decker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eagle 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Steve W,
> Perhaps I should have been more specific...  I meant,  a problem involving
> **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI
> arrest,  which is the topic of this thread of discussion.   Also, he
[Bush]
> says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years.
> That's quite a while ago.  Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over
> it".   So what's your point???  He got the rehab he needed, obviously...
and
> does not still have the problem, so he says.  WHY beat a dead horse?  The
> subject is moot at this point.
>
> This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand
> about the 'new democrats',  i.e...  bringing up stuff that happened  "x"
> many years ago,  as if it is still the problem today.  I know many people
> who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs
> today,  successfully,  without a drink even under stress.  I also know
many
> who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function
> normally and without problems today.  Everyone tells the person who needs
> help to go to rehab.  They go,  and are rehabilitated,  or rehabilitate
> themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem
> still exists.
>
> What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as
> least fit.
>
> I reiterate,  it doesn't matter who wins...
> We're all losers in the final analysis,
> on the day that either of these yahoos is sworn to office.
>
> eagle 1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Wingate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > On 2 Nov 00, at 19:32, Eagle 1 wrote:
> >
> > > then,  is there really a problem with this?  unless there was a
chronic
> > > problem with drinking...?
> >
> > But Bush did have a chronic problem with alcohol and is apparently an
> > alcoholic, who claims he does not drink or do drugs anymore. Ok, but I
> > have to wonder how he will do under stress. We know what stress did to
> > Clinton. ;-)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ./
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