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>Most people acknowledge the "follies of youth."
By that logic, we ought to turn the Manson gang loose. After all, they
were pretty young at the time they killed those people.
>Nobody cares about Clinton's sex life!
That is patently false. He wouldn’t have lied about it if he hadn’t been
asked, and he wouldn’t have been asked if they didn’t care.
You yourself care, and said so, because it happened at the office. In
the same office, 365 days a year for eight years in a row, he refused to
lift the blockade of Iraq. At least half a million civilians
died,because of that, almost all of them women and children. Why don’t
you seem to care about that?
>It demonstrates lack of judgment and character and was lying to a
federal grand jury.
Lying to protect a woman’s reputation used to be considered an honorable
thing to do.
Lying to a federal grand jury, or to a federal anything, is not only not
wrong, it’s a duty. The federal government is EVIL. It murders innocent
women and children in cold blood. Doing anything whatsoever to help it
in any way, especially telling it what it wants to know, makes one an
accessory to its crimes.
>That is not the issue and not the complaint although pretty shoddy
behavior for a married man, etc.
That depends on the marriage. Many people practice open marriage. Who
are you to tell other people how to practice their marriage?
“Adulterers” are apparently a big enough voting bloc to elect a
president, especially when they combine with the draft dodgers and pot
smokers. Were this not true, Clinton never would have gotten elected in
the first place.
Together, adulterers, draft dodgers and pot smokers are apparently the
majority in this country, and the rest of you would do well to sit down,
shut up and quit hassling us before we get mad enough to slap you down.
Go lead your own lives and leave us alone. Our patience is running out.
>And yes, I realize others have "done it, too" but that does not make
it a fine example of the exactly best behavior in his position, lying
to grand juries aside.
That’s true only to people who think sex is wrong. To the rest of us, it
is perfectly fine behavior. If anything it made the guy more likable. It
certainly didn’t cancel out the half million murders, but it sure made
him seem like a nicer person than those meddlesome prudes who attacked
him for it. They are EVIL, if for no other reason than they distracted
the public from his REAL crimes, the half million murders. People who
try to tell others how to lead their sex lives are scum. They should die
off and quit wasting air.
>It was a very stupid thing for a person in his unique position to do
period.
With that, I agree. But that in no way justifies what was done to him
over it. Sex is the SOLE business of the people involve. It’s not your
business, It’s not my business. And it certainly isn’t the government’s
business. Do you want the government telling YOU how to do it, or who to
do it with?
> So now Clinton is a perfect gentleman the epitome of gracious
treatment of women, a model for all men to follow.
I never said that. Don’t put words in my mouth. It’s rude. It’s
dishonest.
Personally, I don't think he's a gentleman at all. I think he's a
villian. OTOH, a whole lot of women sure do seem to like him a lot.
There must be some reason.
>YOU prove that he (Bush) endangered the lives of others and that there
were other drivers even present at the time. He could have been
basically alone on the road with the officer issuing the ticket. YOU
prove he was beyond his personal tolerance of alcohol
There was at least one other driver on the road, the cop. And Bush was
too drunk to see him in time. Whoever else was there escaped with their
lives by blind luck.
> as some people are able to tolerate blood levels much higher than
others. Prove that he is not one of these.
ANY alcohol impairs the ability to drive. Science has proven this
conclusively and repeatedly.
There is NO excuse for driving with alcohol in your blood, not any, not
ever. I’m living proof. Thirty years ago a drunk driver ran off the
road, ran me down, and drove off, leaving me to die in a ditch. It still
hurts, every single day, every step I take. If in the unlikely event
that fate ever puts him in my hands, I fully intend to hurt the man, and
I’m going to take my time doing it, too.
When you defend drunk drivers, you’re defending the guy who ran me down.
Imagine how that makes me feel about you. You’re lucky I’m as polite as
I am. If you did it in person, I wouldn't be.
>I conceded that AT THE TIME, driving under the influence of alcohol was
not given the seriousness it deserved but you have to launch a personal
attack, every time I post it seems, don't you?
Look, you appeared for all the world to be calling somebody a “coon.”
You DEFINITELY defended drunk driving. People like that don’t deserve to
be treated politely. You're getting of lightly.
>Well, I take exception to your assertion that I am a fool, etc.
You appeared to be taking the word of the FBI, a known terrorist
organization, against Rosa Parks, one of America’s greatest (IMHO)
heroines. This makes you look either foolish or evil. By calling you
foolish, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
>Your own logic is often flawed and mere opinion.
My logic is flawless and when I give an opinion, I state so.
>As for the charges against Clinton, I do not know if they were all
covered in his deal or if we may yet see proof of some of these.
This is true. Proof my yet come to the fore. I certainly don’t put
anything past a man capable of murdering a half million women and
children in cold blood. But until there is proof, these allegations are
nothing but a lot of hot air, and they're boring.
>At least the Bush episode is over and in the past and not ongoing.
One episode is in the past. We are told that his drinking problem is not
ongoing. I hope it isn’t. If he really quit drinking, for that at least,
I respect him.
But his regime is just beginning. If the history of his grandfather,
father and brothers is any indication of what he’s likely to do, I fear
for world. This is a crime family, with strong ties to the fascist
movement and the intelligence community. They are dangerous and they are
evil. If Dubya is any different, he’ll have to prove it.
>So I should not post because you do not like the content of my post.
Not if you expect not to be called on it when you sound offensive or
state allegations as if they were proven facts.
>This is not your list and others are allowed to post here unless the
Listowner decides otherwise.
Post all you want, But if you sound offensive or state allegations as if
they were proven facts, expect to get called on it, because that’s what
happens here. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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