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John Cone wrote:
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> --- Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Subject: Polar Ice Sheet Shows Shrinkage
> > From: Mark Graffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Thursday February 1 3:47 PM ET
> >
> > By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer
> >
> > WASHINGTON (AP) - Scientists have worried for
> > decades that the Antarctic ice sheet was shrinking,
> threatening a global rise in sea level.
> Now, satellite studies show that about 7.5
> cubic miles of ice have eroded from a key area
> in just eight years.
> The thinning is 10 times greater than the rate of
> snowfall in the basin,'' said Shepherd. ``The speed of
> the glacier means that much more mass is going out
> (through melting and breaking off of icebergs)
> than is coming in (from fresh snowfall.''
> ________________________________________________
>
> Nakano Comments:
>
> So...satellite measurement shows the icecap
> at the South Pole is shrinking. But there is no
> reason given for this. Even if the greenhouse gas
> global warming theory is correct, it doesn't begin
> to explain this. The most alarmist reports talk in
> terms of 1/2 of one degree (mean avg. temp) increase
> over a 10 year period. In the Antarctic, 1/2 a
> degree of difference wouldn't even melt an icecube.
This is an average temperature for the entire world.
Your argument here is silly.
> But the climate-modification capabilities of
> "scalar" technology (such as HAARP) does offer
> a rational explanation. Are "they" melting the
> anarctic ice to prevent the catastrophe Richard Noone
> described in his book:
> "5/5/2000 Ice The Ultimate Disaster"??
> My guess is...this is what's happening.
> HAARP and other such installations are being used
> to warm at least some areas of Anarctica.
> This is being done to intentially shrink the
> icecap....not to cause rises in sea level and
> coastal flooding....but actually to prevent a
> worldwide catastrophe.
> Here's the situation in a nutshell.
> Water evaporates from the oceans. Some of it falls
> on the earth's continents as precipitation (rain,
> snow, sleet). On the warm continents, this process
> in in balance. The world's rivers return much of
> the precipitation to the oceans and the cycle is
> continuous. But....not in Anarctica.
> The year-round subfreezing temperatures there
> holds the water prisoner in the form of ice.
> Water falls on Anarctica in the form of snow and
> sleet. Under normal conditions, it never gets
> warm enough for this frozen precipitation to melt
> and run off the land back into the ocean.
> It just remains there and piles up. The icecap
> gets thicker and thicker....and heavier and heavier.
> When Admiral Byrd explored the Anarctic, he erected
> 80ft tall radio towers in order to have communications
> with the outside world. Many years later, during the
> International Geophysical Year explorations (1959),
> scientists found Byrd's radio towers were only
> 8 to 10 feet above the ice! Since then, those
> towers have been completely covered by the ice.
> This continual thickening of the Anarctic icecap
> poses a tremendous threat to the entire earth.
>
> And so it may be that the hidden purpose of
> intentional climate modification via HAARP-type
> technology is benevolent.
> However, since the earth's weather is a
> "closed system", when they modify the weather in
> one area of the earth, other areas are also
> affected. For instance, if you increase rainfall
> over one region, this will probably result in
> decreased rainfall over other regions.
> And so....there are unintentional side-effects.
> This could be draughts in some areas...floods in
> other areas...warmer winters in some areas and
> colder winters in others.
> These are precisely the weatherchange patterns
> we are experiencing worldwide.
> "They" put out an advance coverstory to provide
> a plausible explanation for the strange weather.
> This "coverstory" continues today.
> It's all about the CFC gasses destroying the
> ozone layer. This simply is not true.
> CFC (and HCFC) is too heavy to rise high into the
> atmosphere and gobble up all the ozone.
> But "they" knew we would notice the weather changes
> and there had to be some explanation.
> So they blamed it on Freon and aerosol spraycans.
> So they lied.
> But they had a very good reason for lying.
> It could be they are saving mankind's butt.
>
> Regards to All
> Nakano
Well, this is exciting speculation, but not necessary. What is
happening to the climate is not NOT man made. It has happened before,
and often. The geologic record makes that clear.
What humans are doing is making the situation worse by ADDING carbons
to the atmosphere. This speeds up the process of global warming and
makes the changes happening more severe.
Instead, we should be concentrating on reducing the carbons in the
atmosphere. This would not stop the cycle, but could dampen its violent
and unpredictable effects.
The key to doing that is to change from a carbon based economy IMMEDIATELY.
Capitalism is based on a carbon economy. The rich have monopolized
the processes, and the resources, and the industries based on carbon fuels.
Cars, trucks, busses, electricity, airplanes, defense machinery, roads,
tires, batteries, plastics, synthetic fibers, hotels, motels, transportation
taxes, gasoline taxes, food production, etc., etc., etc.
This is the REAL bottom line. All the big guys and their government pimps
have a stake in keeping the carbon based capitalist economy going. Even if
climate change destroys it all in the end. They are hooked, and they are
taking us all down with them.
If the rich and the super rich want to die, that's more than OK with me.
The rest of us don't benefit as much from capitalism as the rich do,
and the the majority of the world's people suffer from it anyway.
It's just insane to let the the elite drive us to disaster.
Darwin is watching.
Joshua2
> ____________________________________________________
>
> 1. Antarctica contains about 7.2 million cubic miles
> of ice, about 84 percent of all the glacial ice on
> Earth, according to the USGS. (U.S. Geological Survey)
> Melting all the Antarctica ice would cause a global
> sea level rise of about 240 feet.
>
> 2. Shepherd said eight years of satellite data show a
> steady trend of ice-sheet shrinkage...The Pine Island
> Glacier thinned by 30 to 36 feet....in eight years,
> and the glacier's grounding line - the point where sea
> water undercuts the main stem of the glacier - has
> pushed inland by about three miles."
> ``The thinning is 10 times greater than the rate of
> snowfall in the basin,'' said Shepherd. ``The speed of
> the glacier means that much more mass is going out
> (through melting and breaking off of icebergs)
> than is coming in (from fresh snowfall.''
>
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