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No, I will agree to no such absurd, preposterous thing.
It is not negligent to land one's aircraft to save 24 lives,
it is only common sense, and international law provides for
such emergencies.  I keep making this point, you keep not
reading.

You  do not "effectively" give your military aircraft to an enemy
simply because you were forced to land there in order to save your
life, especially since the aircraft was rendered inoperable by the
reckless joy ridings of a hot-shot jet jockey showing off.
International law provides that such a landing NOT BE PUNISHED,
due to the overriding consideration of the emergency.  I made that
point before also, apparently to little avail.

    I really couldn't care less how china could show us how to deal
with traitors  --  those uncivilized, murderous brutes are viscious
animals when it comes to dealing with human beings.  As far as
executing their crew, I doubt it a great deal  --  they did not execute
their second pilot participating in the harassment, and they all but
named the deceased a national hero for his ridiculous antics which
cost his life, a Chinese aircraft, and an American aircraft, along with
a great deal of intelligence hardware and data, and compromised military
secrets.

    I really do not know why you hate us American types so much,
you must not forget that as allies, your country benefits from the
surveillance and data gathered as well as the rest of the free world.

    Let me give you one small insight into the mind and humanity of
the Chinese government you admire so much, seen on NBC news
about one month ago.

    Picture a second story set of jail cell bars viewed from the outside
from the street, and a news camera centered on the bars.  This was at
one of the many "crackdowns" against Chinese citizens for demonstrating
for a loosening of chinese policies and controls.  A thin, frail man has his
hands manacled OUTSIDE the bars, so his body is inside, but his 2 hands
are handcuffed outside across 2 bars, and he is hanging inside the cell by
his arms.

    His entire torso, arms and hands are hammered back and forth, left and
right, about twice per second, head flying, hair flying, as he is beaten to a
bloody pulp, perhaps to death by your good friends, representatives of the
Chinese government.  This bloody, disgusting, enraging scene goes on for
15 seconds before the video clip merciflully breaks off.

    NOW, you want to  "induce siezures in" yourself, get a look at that
brutal treatment of a human being, being administered by the
bragging, bellicose "inheritors of 5000 years of history."

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"c." wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> but you will agree that the crew of the american type plane were negligent
> in landing their plane in the territory of the country they were
> surveilling? they gave the plane to the chinese effectively and should be
> punished with the full force of the law. china could show you american types
> a thing or two bout how to deal with traitors. they would have summarily
> executed their crew in a reverse situation.
>  if they ever got the hostages back from y'all, that is.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dead Chinese fighter pilot footage
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> > -Caveat Lector-
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> > Ironically, just in case you anti-American types have lost your
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