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>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> J2 writes in part:
> >> It is also an issue of proportionality. It is beyond dispute that there
> are
> >> many causes of climate change such as solar flare ups,
> >
> >>>>>wrong.
>
> If you deny that solar radiation cycles have a major effect on climate
> change, you can have no credibility regarding climate change.
That just your opinion. You are no more an expert than I am.
I do deny that solar flares are a major factor in global warming.
There are innumerable solar flares during a 90,000 year cold period in an
ice age. It doesn't appear to make a difference. If anything, these phenomena
may cause brief fluctioations in temperature as an effect, but doesn't alter
the climate.
>
> >> earth tilt,
> >
> >>>>>Wrong.
>
> Earth tilt (the tilt of the earth vis a vis the sun as it rotates) has a
> profound
> effect on the degree of solar radiation that heats the earth. A slight
> change
> in tilt can effect the earth's mean temperature by many degrees. Earth
> tilt is not finite but can and does change. How and why is little
> understood.
> Denying earth tilt as a climate factor is as silly as calling CO2 a
> "pollutant."
I responded to this in a different post.
>
> Global warming has become an irrational ideology. Global pollution is
> a problem but it is basically one of overpopulation.
Half right. There is no such problem as ' overpopulation '. There is a
serious problem of maldistribution of humans. There is WAY more room
available for the 6.3 billion people of the planet.
It is ECONOMICS which forces them to the cities and megalopolises where
they become an ecological blight.
> Nothing damages the
> air, water, arable land more then population density. Billions of people
> demanding electricity, autos, water,wood, wheat and meat is the
> problem...not
> greenhouse gases.
Bullshit. And stupid to boot. The above problem could be easily solved by
implementing a sane, rational use of technology and natural resources. NOT
one based on a wasteful economic system like Capitalist Free Markets. Or one
based on carbon fuels which only benefit the scumbags who currently ' OWN '
profit producing shares in the fossil fuel industry.
> As long as you have billions of people demanding
> goods and services that can only be provided by burning fossils
> fuels and the chopping down vast forests (and no practical subsitute is
> even vaguely on the horizon)
No alternatives on the horizon??? What are you, a Luddite?
> all the "treaties" in world will be an exercise
> in futility.
That's right. They are a ' slight of hand ' distraction. The real problem
is global Capitalism, the #1 driving force behind the destruction of the
ecosphere. And while YOU live in la-la-land, many of us are working to
make sure that that system will soon hang with Communism, and Elvis, in the
Great Beyond.
>
> To wail about "global warming" and ignore "global crowding" is like
> passengers complaining about the smoke from Titanic's stackpipe while
> it speeds blindly in the dark toward the iceberg.
> flw
That's beautiful man.
Joshua2
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