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Somebody on tv said
they had gone down the stairs from the I think 50th floor to I think the 30th
and the speakers came on and said they should go back to their offices; he said
they looked at each other, said, "naaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh", kept going to the
ground and lived.
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-Caveat Lector-
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Amelia
wrote:
>If you hear any more about the person telling people to stay
calm
>and stay in the building, please post it.
Nope, nothing
more today, but then there weren't many survivors hanging
around to be
interviewed...
>Could she have been
>well-intended and
just somebody who thought she would avert panic
>by doing this? Or
do you think something far more sinister?
While the female survivor
just reported that 'someone told us to stop
leaving and herded us into this
room on the 12th floor where a TV was
playing...', the construction worker
specifically stated 'some guy told
us to stay put and not
evacuate'...
The contruction worker didn't mention any room with a TV,
I'm not sure if
he and the woman survivor were even in the same building or
each in
separate towers...
If it was just one incident, one could
perhaps brush it off as misguided
advice from a well-meaning anonymous
individual...but the fact that 2
people in 2 separate incidents report an
attempt to keep them inside
instead of evacuating, and the possibility that
it was 2 separate people
doing this, I think raises questions about what
was going on...
Especially when one muses on why there just happened to
be what seemed to
be a collection area for evacuees on the 12th floor with
a TV set
up...according to this woman, there was nothing else in the room
except
the TV and people milling about, wondering what to
do...
According to this woman, they were specifically stopped IN THE
STAIRWELL
by this person, who seemed to be stationed deliberately at the
12th floor
level to divert evacuees to this mysterious empty room with the
TV.....
But if that person was still there when the woman and her
friends decided
to book out again, at least he or she did not stop them a
2nd time...
But I do have to wonder how many other people were still
milling around,
watching that TV on the 12th floor, when the building
collapsed...
>Also, I have been so proud of the behavior of the
New Yorkers!
New Yorkers, no less! Behaving in a very civilized
manner and showing
>compassion and helping each other.
You
obviously don't know the Big Apple and its residents well...this
happens
all the time, albeit on a much smaller scale. New Yorkers always
pull
together in a crisis... :-)
>I thought they did not
care,
>etc. and even prided themselves on their bad
attitude.
Ah! You see, they really care too much, and hide their
collective
marshmallow interior with a hard, tough
veneer...
>Even when
>they were running as the buildings
collapsed and all of the debris
>was coming right up the street after
them, there was no pushing, no
>shoving and people actually picked up
anybody who fell.
Yep...that's Big Applites fer ya!
Although
late this afternoon they showed an evacuation from one of the
buildings
near the WTC which is about to collapse...there was a camera
crew in the
lobby, along with a whole bunch of rescue personnel, when the
building
started shaking and they thought it was about to fall...
The cameraman
kept filming as they all hightailed it out there...as he
ran thru the lobby
doors with dozens of rescue personnel running in front
and past him (and
those outside starting to run as people shout "Get out
of the area, it's
about to fall!"), suddenly a woman pushes past -- she
hadn't been visible
before that. I suspect that she was part of the
camera crew, as she
was wearing clean crisp designer jeans and a nice
clean, white shirt...in
other words, it didn't look like she had been
taking an active part in the
rescue operation. Plus she had a designer
knapsack on her
back...
Well, she was the only woman....and everyone had to squeeze
thru a narrow
area because of the constrictions of debris, abandoned cars,
etc. Some
of the guys just milled, wondering whether they should
leave or not.
Some others were weighed down with rescue equipment. In
other words,
most couldn't move very fast....
And suddenly you see
this babe just elbowing her way thru the crowd...it
was obvious that she
was very afraid and wanted to put as much space
between herself and the
dangerous building as possible, and wasn't going
to let a little thing like
manners get in the way... :-)
That's Big Applites fer ya,
too! ;-)
>One man passing out sneakers from his store to
those women with no
>shoes! What is the world coming to? New
Yorkers are going to lose
>their reputation for being nasty!
:-)
They're never really nasty, just abrupt.
What's nasty is
those gas stations in the midwest gas gouging
yesterday....as you pointed
out, in New York people have been coming
forward to give things away,
either to victims or to the rescuers...
I even contacted the AKC today
to see if they knew of any efforts
underway to render assistance to all the
rescue dogs and their handlers
working the WTC rubble...this morning
WCBS-TV showed one handler with his
dog, and it was obvious that both were
exhausted, already having worked
12 hours straight without a break....they
said that only the dogs were
successful in finding live victims, their
other equipment wasn't working
for that...
And everyone is donating
food and water for the human workers, I just
figured that the dogs could
stand to have donations of food and water,
too....unfortunately the
response I got from the AKC was 'we don't know
of anything like that
happening, but it sounds like a great idea, let us
know if you get
something organized'...heck, that's why I
contacted
THEM...
>The nine emergency workers found alive is
such good news but I want
>them to hurry because what is someone is in
there bleeding, etc.
They're going as fast as they can, because it is
still dangerous to be in
the area...and as they move rubble, it becomes
more unstable....
>No more expected to be found alive at the
Pentagon.
Nor at the WTC, it was announced
tonight...
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