-Caveat Lector-

the original remark and this shitty, pompous reply underlines the pathetic
attitude you have toward people.
i mean- in your hour of grief you attack other nations (without substance)-
if you cannot see how vile that is...
trivial nitpicking? fuck you- every other country in the world has been
attacked- in war and in peace- when we pick up the dead we are not boasting
that we are better at it than those darned americans.
your attitude diminishes the sympathy that might be felt for you.
fuck you.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Terrorism on Trial (Daniel Pipes and Steven
Emerson) July, 2001


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> c.,
> May God forgive me if in my grief I have been insensitive to a
> British soccer fan! We are digging out over 20,000 dead, c.  Do you
> realize that I am about roughly as far from New York as the entire
> EU?  I was trying to be supportive of them.  That's all. There has
> never been a terrorist attack of this magnitude for comparison.  I
> think they behaved admirable.  It could have been sheer chaos.  I
> want the people of the NYC area to know the rest of the country is
> behind them and supportive.
>
>  I have no knowledge of soccer and no particular incident in mind.
> It was the first example of trampling that came to my mind. I spoke
> without research. Obviously, I should have put aside my own shock
> and grief and thought of you and the other fans instead. In fact my
> mind was elsewhere, if you can believe it.  I was thinking of our
> dead and not the sensibilities of British or other fans!  How could
> I?  Where are my priorities?  But now that you have injected this
> trivial subject into an otherwise serious discussion, I hate
> soccer.  I always have.  I bet now I always will. I have only heard
> reports of trampling at games.  Period.  I used what I had heard as
> an example of trampling.  Take it personally if you like or take it
> any way at all for I do not care what you think.
>
> I think this is not the time for nit-picking as you are doing and I
> do not appreciate it one bit.  If you do not like what I am saying,
> do not read my posts.  When times are tough, we find out who our
> real friends are.  I hope you never have to deal with a situation
> like this but if you do, I hope some little creep will not crawl
> out from under a rock and try to put words in your mouth and issue
> veiled threats about something you cannot even understand and
> invent some slight in the midst of your mourning.  Go crawl back
> under your rock and allow us to deal with our grief in peace. You
> are despicable!  What an utter lack of compassion.  I do not give a
> rat's ass if you and your soccer teams trample each other to death
> for obviously you have not one shred of concern for what we are
> going through in this country.
> ~Amelia~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Terrorism on Trial (Daniel Pipes and
> Steven Emerson) July, 2001
>
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:47 PM
> Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Terrorism on Trial (Daniel Pipes and Steven
> Emerson)
> July, 2001
>
>
> Compare
> > and contrast that to soccer games where they trample each other
> to
> > death!
>
> be extremely careful with the accuracy of your sources, amelia,
> when you
> deny that it is a case of an american claiming to be better at
> dealing with
> emergancies than... a european? or who? american soccer fans?
> do you have an incident in mind? i can think of two you may be
> mistakenly
> refering to... cause i just wanna vomit on ya when i read the
> above.
> am i wrong to jump to conclusions about your meaning? you cannot
> really be
> so sick as to gloat about how great and better you americans are in
> a tragic
> situation than other nationalities. mistakenly too... well, there's
> a
> surprise.
> but, please, show me i am mistaken.
>
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