-Caveat Lector- On 19 Nov 01, at 1:51, dig Lola Fox wrote:
> << As a nation becomes paganized, it becomes more corrupt, the people > become > more decadent and unjust, and ends up destroying itself from the inside > and > then gobbled up by it's enemies. Can't think of one exception >> > > > Good god. This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. The first statement reads very much like the description of Germany and the problems it was facing between the wars. The problem remains the same: take an ideology and impose it upon the subjects, serfs, whathaveyou, and when it fails to meet expectations the disappointed entity (religion in this case) has to find a scapegoat ... an interesting read is *Constantine's Sword* in which the author describes the various problems and solutions the religious entities in Europe faced when trying to establish its Empire. And before anyone claims religion never sought to impose itself on any masses of people in an imperialist fashion, don't forget the Holy Roman Empire and the existence of the Vatican as a "state" with a purpose. We just had two young women release by the Talebaniaqs who were detained for being a part of this imperial force, even in our modern times. Yes, ol' Constantine, faced with vanquishing or being vanquished, being guided by a vision of a sword on a stick ... er ... cross. A<>E<>R <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om