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From: thew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Muslims - coming after Christianity may well have "Satanists". but the
>conversation was origins of Satanism. there is no satanism in the Jewish
>worldview. there is no Satanism in the Persian religions.

While there is no 'satanism' in Persian religions, the concept of a dual
nature of good and evil attributed to deities IS a decidedly Persian
concept, which was quite prominent in both Zoroasterism and Mithraism, two
religions which had a definite influence on Christianity.

Prior to Zorasterism and Mithraism (and later, Christianity), religions
presented gods as just 'being' -- they were not necessarily good or evil,
they just 'were'; if one placated a certain god or goddess, that deity then
lent their protection and benediction to the worshippers -- hopefully.  One
could never be quite sure how one's personal deity was going to act or
react -- the gods and goddesses were believed to be quite an arbitrary and
changeable lot, and one may find oneself at the mercy of a deity's ire even
if one had done nothing wrong...

Most ancient religions believed that gods and goddesses ruled actual
physical places; hence, a certain city would be devoted to a certain god or
goddess to whom one made supplications when in that city, even if one were
raised in another area where a different deity ruled altogether.  One's own
god, and the gods of one's allies, were 'good'; the gods of ones enemies
were by default 'bad', but these peoples would not have understood the
concept of 'good' and 'evil' beyond whether a god or goddess belonged to
oneself or to one's enemies; IOW, gods and gods were not intrinsically
'good' OR 'evil', just omnipotent...

It was the Hebrews, Zoroasters, and Mithrans who introduced the concept of
one god who ruled over everything, who was everywhere at every moment.  It
was the Zoroasters and Mithrans who introduced the concept of a 'good' god
and an 'evil' god, who were intrinsically 'good' or intrinsically 'evil',
and never deviated from being 'good' or being 'evil'...

These concepts entered into the Greek world due to Alexander's conquests,
and subsequently were worked into 'heretical' offshoots of existing
religions, like Christianity.

(BTW, Zoroasterim and Mithraism also had the concept of 'the son of God'
being born to a human woman via virgin birth, who was subsequently killed
and rose from the dead, long before Christianity came along)...


>to call someone a "Satanist" and by that mean they worship a being of pure
>evil, is originally a Christian concept. period.

As I pointed out above, the concept of a deity of pure evil is not solely
Christian, indeed it is not even originally Christian; Zoroasterism and
Mithraism introduced those concepts, and so one could, in theory, worship a
being of 'pure evil' in those religions.  But actual satanism IS a
Christian concept, since Satan (by that name) is only found in
Judeo-Christian literature.


June

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