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BF>Actually, I was referring to the inverted pentagram, not the hexagram. In any
case, the inverted pentagram was well-known to the eighteenth century mind, as a
symbol of the "Goat of Mendez". Whether the symbol was *Satanic* at the time can
be debated, perhaps, but not that it was known at the time. The notion that it
was "Satanic" was not unknown. If initially this was the result of Roman
persecution of all non-conforming religious ideas, it may have provided a
rallying point for those who were genuinely oriented towards darkness. By the
eighteenth century, the symbol was known and understood. Whether Satanic or not,
it was deliberately incorporated and thus must be understood to be a religious
symbol. The question of what nature this symbol is becomes of utmost importance,
not to be dismissed.
I seem to get the sense that there is no other defense against my charges
other than some vague sense in which I have missed the point. No one ever
explains what I have missed, only that I am a vulgar peasant unfamiliar with
history. Alright, fine. I strongly suggest that North was "up" because that is
what I have seen on the original maps of D.C. Earlier maps from the sixteenth
century I cannot comment on. The eighteenth and nineteenth centuries were
basically modern centuries. I am still open to further data, but that is the
impression I get based on the lack of real evidence to the contrary provided by
those more knowledgable than I.
The hexagram I would not object to. That is another subject, one I will not
debate. I am willing to debate the pentagram issue but all I seem to get is this
argument;
"There is no evidence that this is an inverted pentagram. And furthermore,
an inverted pentagram is not Satanic, therefore the design of D.C. is not
Satanic". These are actually two arguments, one subtly contradicting the other.
One acknowledges no design, the other argues that said design is not Satanic,
contradicitng the whole emphasis of the original "no design argument" in every
sense but the most literal.
I do not suppose that the Templars were or were not anything. I do not
suppose that the Masons are or are not anything. I cannot say anything without
more proof, or "evidence" better put. I can only go with what was confirmed to
me, that a cloud of occult darkness hangs over the nation's capital, and over the
nation. It has also been confirmed to me that within the Masons is an occult
power, lodged in secret and somewhat unknown to the Masons themselves. It is my
best guess, based on my own understanding, which is admittedly a very dangerous
thing to rely on but in this case it seems to confirm the truth given me, that
this inverted pentagram is a large part of the puzzle when explaining this
darkness.
I am not here to blame anyone. I simply must relate what I know, that we
have been misled in great measure by ourselves. The Templars, the masons, the
Pope, the Reds, and all others who have been blamed by conspiracy researchers
(many of whose leaders are demonically energized), even if guilty, cannot mislead
a nation that does not want to be misled. Communists were blamed for the
immorality accompanying Rock'n Roll. Blacks were also blamed for America's
cultural disintegration by Right-wing whites, along with the self-hating J. Edgar
Hoover. What greater nonsense! I do not even blame the designers of the
pentagram themselves if the American people are too complacent to act. We are to
blame if we have chosen the worst, black and white Americans alike.
The Bavarian Illuminati, seen as an off-shoot of the Templars, probably never
rose to any kind of real power in the world, although their American off-shoot
the "Clintonian Illuminati" probably continues intact deep within the Bohemian
Grove, Columbia University, and other Establishment institutions. Their more
radical, less capitalistic, branch may have influenced some of the early
socialist movements, but this seems to have been largely eclipsed the heavily
atheistical Communists. However, once again the people do elect the government
in this country, thanks in part to the Masonic Founding Fathers who by Divine
Grance helped preserve us as a stable Republic under a liberal and generous
Constitution, eventually modified in a more democratic direction away from
Federalist and planters' oligarchy, and thus the people are held accountable when
we turn away from God as a nation. The people rule. Blame falls nowhere else.
I wish I had a better message, but I do not. I will not excuse my readers
because it is all the fault of someone else. You are at fault, as I am. We are
at fault collectively. Get over it.
Bates
Andrew Hennessey wrote:
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>
> > I am saying that without further investigation one cannot with any
> > intelligence state whether the design is 'inverted' or not; and that even
> > if it IS determined to be 'inverted', that one cannot construe an
> > evil/satanic meaning to such a layout, since such a meaning would have
> been
> > unknown to the 18th-century intellect.
> >
> thats not true - conjurations with the seal of solomon and pentacles were
> employed by john dee the elizabethan mage circa 16th century and by the
> knights templars circa 12th century -
> what are you covering up for june ?? what I've just reported about the
> history of magic is common knowledge - are folks on this list so stupid that
> they've never heard of the templar persecutions, or the inquisition witch
> craft trials or even john dee ?
> The hexagram was known to biblical intellect never mind 18th century
> intellect - why do you think its called the seal of solomon ?
> the beings relevent to the conjurations are demonic, and there is precedent
> for satanic symbols throughout the dark age and the renaissance - and you
> say that 18th century intellect never heard of such thing - you must LOVE
> some people in washington :)
>
> andrew hennessey
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