-Caveat Lector-
Is calling me shithead repeatedly an example of the much proclaimed
Christian charity I hear so much about? I have been nothing but polite to
you here, and asked you to clarify, that is all. Do you talk to everyone
this way, or only Jews? And if the latter - does that mean you would have
talked to Jesus that way?
on 3/28/02 11:42 PM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, thew wrote:
>
>> Belief in god is not the only definition of what is a "Jew"- it is also a
>> tribal / ethnic grouping.
>
> Which means what? Do you, asshole, want to tell me about such things? I
> spent 8 years in college learning what they mean.
I'm glad you know what they mean - your posts don't demonstrate that
understanding, friend.
>
> In the phrase "italian/catholic" you have an
>> ethnicity and a religion - the word "Jew" unfortunately refers to both - if
>> it didn�t there would be so much less confusion.
>
> OK, let's go on and see if you have anything but shit between your
> ears...which so far is very, very doubtful.
>
>> In Germany, the definition of Jew was anyone who was either culturally or
>> religiously Jewish.
>
> Atheists are "culturally and religiously" Jewish?
> Please explain, shithead.
>
Ahh - here's some confusion - the words "and" and "or" do not have the same
meaning (how many years of college before they teach that?)- no, Atheist
Jews are not "culturally AND religiously" (your words) Jewish, they are
"EITHER culturally OR religiously (my words) Jewish" (in this case the
former".
This is exactly my point, brother - To the people who at that time were
attempting to kill all the Jews, it didn�t matter if you were "culturally
AND religiously" Jewish it was enough if you were "EITHER culturally OR
religiously Jewish"
>> If only religious Jews had been targeted by the Nazi's then your concerns
>> about the religion and the "right of return" ( a ridiculous phrase - no
>> matter who uses it) would make sense.
>
> Check it out, asswipe. The LAW OF RETURN is part of Israel's
> CONSTITUTION!!!
Have I ever said I support Israel blindly and agree with everything there?
More to the point - this follows from before - so read it again if you have
to - Israel was founded as a response to the situation in Nazi Germany and
WW2 - So to protect Jews from this happening again, they said anyone who is
Jewish - ("EITHER culturally OR religiously Jewish" ) can be a citizen here.
It would be stupid to only say it for religious Jews - because that would
not save the nonreligious Jews, who the Nazis were killing as well.....
Calling it the "right of return" is just packaging like - "cheerio's"
"desert shield" ,"US Patriot act," and "creation science."
>
>> .. As the son of 2 people who were sent to the camps, I understand the need
>> for people to have a safe place to run to - no one asked my grandparents, or
>> parents if they believed in god. They just forcibly moved them into ghettos,
>> and then shipped them to the camps-
>> When the US and the UK had ships of refugees at their shore, they did not
>> ask if the were religious or not, they just sent them back to Germany.
>
> Which proves what?
Which shows the need for a place for Jews ("EITHER culturally OR religiously
Jewish" ) to go, so when the long standing European tradition of
anti-Semitism again raises its head, they won't have to worry about whether
countries which proclaim "religious Tolerance" like the UK and the USA,
don't turn them away, for being Jewish refugees.
>
>> If this does not address what you are saying, and I am not understanding
>> you, please explain. Maybe I am missing something.
>
> What you are missing is called a BRAIN.
>
> POC
> (An Israelite of the Tribe of Judah...NOT a hymie, kike, yid or "israeli")
Funny - I'm not a kike, yid, or hymie either. One other thing I'm not is an
intolerant bigoted softcock, who sublimates his own impotence-bred
self-hatred into a mindless rant under the guise of political astuteness.
NP: frank zappa - "Jesus thinks you're a jerk"
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