-Caveat Lector- Like it or not, catholics are not Christians. Christians who are born again and read their bibles and take it at face value (instead of relying on men who relied on men who relied on men who THOUGHT they knew God)do not rape children. WE do not entangle ourselves in political intrigues. WE dont print books that say "we are God on earth," or "a priest literally becomes Christ at the point of consecration" or "the pope has the right to change the scripture at his will, and the word of the Pope is to be held in higher regard than scripture" so there really is an US and THEM. What WE need to do is show THEM the freedom in Christ, so that THEY will come out of the dark ages and use THEIR reason. I dont recall in my posts saying anything about harming THEM. In fact THEY are victims that WE should be helping. Hammurabi's history is nearly on the mark. The vatican LOVED hitler (he was a "good" catholic, and Hitler was NEVER rebuked by the church, nor was he excommunicated and in church talk, that means he remains a catholic in "good standing"), helped in into power (Montini, future Pope Paul the 6th)and then Hilters Pope Pius the 12th was busy looking the other way and claimng "we didnt know any better" (sound familiar??)while the Jews AND Catholic people and Pagans and Protestants were being gassed. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > If I may cut in. > Please learn your history Mr/Ms Zuckie. The > Catholic church was in league > with the Nazi's. What evidence are you referring to > in their condemnation of > Catholics? > The Jews were financiers of Hitler. The catholic > church stole most of it's > religion from the Pagans whom you seem to disdain. > The first Catholic saints > were Pagan gods and the Vatican built on the holiest > Pagan site. They stole > the Pagan religion and made it their own. You take a > complex scenario and > boil it down to sarcasm and you are patently > misrepresenting the issue. > History repeating itself would be the Crusades, the > Inquisition, Robber Popes > and Vatican covert ops (woops, we still have the > last two). > The Catholic church showed what it was when it had > power to be what it was. > It showed itself to be ruthless, brutal, extreme and > criminal. It did not > willfully give up power. The advent of the New > World put a cog in it's wheel > of control. > Poor fools that are led by charlatans in robes and > pedophiles with protection > are deserving of the light being shined on them by > those that are not in the > shadows. > The history of the Catholic church is horror. Damn > them to hell. > db > > > > In a message dated 5/17/02 11:58:25 PM !!!First > Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > > Janesaved, you really wanted to convey "Them" > isn't like "Us." Us's > > are intelligent logical, kind, warm-hearted, and > moral. 'Them's" are > > stupid, primitive, immoral, greedy, and downright > dangerous. Why > > not just come out and say "Them religious people, > Jews and/or > > Christians don't know how to act civilized and are > a downright > > danger to the community." My, my my...just like > in the old days in > > Germany when the Nazis slandered Jews, denigrated > Catholics and > > fundamental Christians in order to promote their > new and improved > > paganism. Why is it we can't see history > repeating itself? > > > > The actions of individuals that are evil or cover > up evil need to be > > condemned. You know what, that's what I'm doing > here. > > > > > > >
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