-Caveat Lector-

No foreign powers (per se) -

By Jewish law - by the 1st of the 10 commandments - to worship any but god
is idolatry. As soon as Christianity divided god into 3 parts, it broke the
1st commandment.

This is one of the "problems" that Islam tried to correct, one of the places
it saw people had strayed from the original covenant made with god. (Islam
was a fundamentalist movement in many ways, trying to return to a purer form
of worship, that it thought both Judaism and Christianity had moved away
from)


Jesus (and more so Paul) certainly subverted Jewish worship, and it was
under the influence of Greek thought and philosophy, if not Greek politics.
So while not a foreign power in the sense we mean when we use the phrase,
but foreign ideas of worship, and a lessening of Jewish law (e.g.
circumcision, rules of kosher eating, etc), are what separated Christianity
from Judaism, in order to attract more adherents.



on 9/6/02 6:57 AM, Bill Kalivas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I don't think that's what Jesus did. From a Christian perspective, He
> established the New Covenant with Israel.
>
> What foriegn powers do you speak of?
>
>
>
>> -Caveat Lector-
>>
>> on 9/5/02 5:57 PM, Bill Kalivas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> 1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
> astray
>>> into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the
> purpose
>>> of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
>>
>>
>> This one is true isn't it?
>>
>> If it weren't Islam wouldn't have had to happen.



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