From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--snip--
>I also lost my pistols after the '97 fiasco. I fully agree
>that the police are useless at licensing, and that the
>attitudes of some in the ranks are hostile towards shooters. I
>personally will stick up for any legitimate shooter except
>someone who wants a gun for self defence.
--snip--
> I dont feel the need to have a firearm for protection at
>home. I dont know or associate with anyone who does. If
>anyone feels that strongly about it, then I feel very
>sorry for them. Their lives must be hell, and I mean that
sincerely.
--snip--
>:-)
>
>IG
>
>PS Just 'cos your paranoid doesn't mean they
>arent after you.
>
>PPS The proponents of the right to bear arms for
>self defence will presumably be able to distinguish a
>replica or an air weapon in a burglar or muggers hands
>in the dark.
[...]
Steve, and IG,
IG:
Well, I can certainly sympathize with your
ill feelings, being put upon by your detractors. They do
have well placed arguments that you have not adequately
addressed, especially the right to keep and bear arms for
self-defense.
I see that you rather disagree with that position,
but you do not -- in any way -- effectively counter their
proposition that they have the right to defend their lives
and their property -- with deadly force, if necessary.
If, as you pronounce, you are a member of the
Law Enforcement Establishment, you should very well
know that no cop is omniscient or omnipotent: You cannot
be everywhere at the same time, nor render aid at the time of
gravest need.
If that is the case, and if cops have the right to
employ deadly force in their own defense, how is it then,
that non-police -- in your world view -- must be deprived of
the same force that the citizens gave them the authority to
employ?
If the citizens have the authority to authorize a
power, do they not also possess that power themselves?
You cannot give what you do not possess the
original authority for, to begin with.
The Crown in your land is by citizen assent, not by
edict. The crown cannot take what it does not compensate for
by direct action. Neither the Crown nor the Parliament has
in any way managed to compensate the loss of viable and
affirmative defensive abilities on the part of the citizen, in
the name of personal arms.
So, you don't feel the need?
And, what of those others who do? Am I to suppose
that because you feel a certain way, that all others must
kowtow to that special feeling of yours? In what way are you
special enough to warrant that all others must somehow just
keep a stiff upper lip whilst they are delivered a beating without
any recourse to effective measures?
That, I'd really like to know the answer to.
ET
--
Time for another classic quote:
"It is the role of the police to maintain public safety and
protect the individual in the community." - Home Office
minister Earl Ferrers, 27 October 1993.
ARVs outside every house in Handsworth then!
Steve.
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