I'm going out on a limb here and to the right of Bert and say as much as no 
butts on the beach would be nice, we already live in a nanny state.  I say no 
more regulation.  

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From: "James Lamm" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:43 pm
Subject: [COWs] Ride in the lane
To: <[email protected]>

Amen,

I spent this past week at Avon on the outer banks.  Didn't get to ride my
new bike as a result of the accident so I went to the beach with eight
grand kids and had great fun.  Butts all over the beach are only part of
the issue. It seemed that everyplace I went on the beach, cigarette smoke
followed me and the smoke takes away so much from my enjoyment.  While I
agree that it would be better if government wasn't involved, that seems to
be the only way to control it at least to some degree.  It seems so good to
go into smoke-free restaurants now.

James

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jim Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well said, I am not in favor of more gov't intervention, butt the smokers
> have brought this on themselves.  No one seems to want to take
> responsibility for their actions or those of their children.  One reason I
> retired.
> Birdman
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:44 PM, ssp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ....
>
> ....if the smoke ban passes then it will help the 'butt litter'
> issue for both CB and WB.  The registered WB voters  will have
> the opportunity this Nov'12 to express their desire for a smoke-free
> WB or not.  The WB board of alderman have voted against a smoke-
> ban on WB twice now.  This girl, Danielle Richardet, has pretty much
> proven the need for smoking to be banned on beaches.  Here is her
> blog.      http://itstartswithme-danielle.blogspot.com/
>  Well documented and evidence for the rule. Especially interesting
> is the comparison to Santa Monica beach butt litter count and the WB
> butt litter count:
>
> *For the next 100 days, my friend Sara who writes The Daily 
> Ocean<http://thedailyocean.blogspot.com/>blog
> will be counting and tallying the number of cigarette butts she finds
> during her 20 minute beach clean ups in Santa Monica-- a SMOKE-FREE beach.
> *
> *We're comparing a smoke-free beach (Santa Monica) to a beach with no
> smoking ban (Wrightsville Beach). We hope to answer the question:*
> *Do smoking bans really help the cigarette litter problem?*
> *46 beach clean ups-- 259 cigarette butts in Santa Monica*
> *30 beach clean ups-- 6,499 cigarette butts in Wrightsville Beach*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> My personal position?
> I *hate* to see more  regulation occur.  The USA was founded on people
> having freedoms
> and opportunities take make their lives better.  Having government get too
> involved
> creates dependency and stifles personal freedoms and responsibility.
>  Smokers should have
> the freedom to smoke as long as the smoke and their butt litter does not
> encroach on people
> who choose not to smoke.
>
> That being said our society has, degraded to a level where people seem to

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