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At 9:30 PM -0700 on 5/13/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> Seems to me that most of our economy is arguably illegal.

Fine. Document that, please. Show me statistics. Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary proof, right?

>> $4 trillion worth of foreign exchange alone happened today.
>
> Much of it illegal.

Fine. How much. Say it with numbers, please.

> For example some large proportion of the
> capital formed in Ireland sneaks out, and then re-enters in the
> guise of foreign capital.

No problem. How much, exactly? Even a reasonable estimate will do
nicely, if you can point to actual data.


The biggest number I've heard for money laundering worldwide for
instance, over the last 6 years ago since Black Unicorn threw it
around at DCSB in 1996, is a mostly made up number in the several
hundred billion-dollar annual range. Compared, again, to, regulated,
monitored, bank-to-bank foreign exchange of several *trillion*
dollars a *day*, it's chicken feed.

Illegal drugs are probably a few tens of billions of dollars a year.
Timmy Leary quoted $50 billion in the early 80's at the height of the
Columbian cocaine boom. I'll take triple that, now, just for fun.
Chicken feed compared to the global commercial drug market. Money
laundering and drugs are probably the largest illegal businesses. The
rest is, again, chicken-feed in comparison to even that.


Frankly, the amount of formerly illegal business now declared legal,
in a gross sense, has gone up dramatically in the last 10-15 years,
think most of Eurasia, for instance, and the number of de-regulated
businesses increases that amount exponentially every year. Wait until
various moslem dictatorships are freed, and you'll see even more.

We're legislating "crime" out of statistical significance, just by
making most of it legal, and in spite of the increase of financial
crime legislation in the G-7, even before 9/11. Legitimate Internet
commerce, boom, bust, or no, is going to be so huge that it will
completely swamp the ability of governments to control business at
all, much less their own economies and currencies, and, frankly, it
can't happen soon enough for me.

The pointy end of the stick isn't illegal business. It's anyone who
wants to sell anything over the internet, particularly if it's
anything that is *transported* over the internet, which, in a
geodesic economy, will be the only stuff that matters.


Cheers,
RAH


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[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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