On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:33:22 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" <s...@lig.net> wrote:
> In the unlikely > event that we elect Trump, He is unlikely to be elected because he's marginally better than that murderours cunt, your boss hitlery. > The US is too > open and too self-examining in public for much false propaganda to > get very far for long. Of course. The only propaganda that the US tolerates is 'true' propaganda. > > I'm not sure that American Sniper is propaganda, Of course not. It's not propaganda! It's jew-kristian art. > The US almost completely holds back on propaganda Right. The US psycho-leaders and all their sheep don't even know what 'propaganda' means. They've never seen any, let alone produced it. > However, when hardly > anyone in Afghanistan knows anything at all about 9/11 or similar, That's interesting. So you know exactly what the population of afghanistan (let's assume 25 million) knows? How did you manage that one? You must have a high ranking position in the americunt 'national security' 'industry' eh. And you speak a few varieties of persian I assume? > that is a failure of the world to provide even basic knowledge to > everyone. And now you sound flatly crazy. The 'world' is supposed to provide knowledge? What, you think "world" means "fascist public indoctrination system"? At any rate, I'd bet a couple of cents that people in afhanistan know about your 9/11 false flag attack. > it would seem like an important strategy for both US State and > Defense, but I don't see it happening much. So we have a piece of neocunt shit making world domination plans in the cpunks mailing list. How cute is that? Anyway, enough time wasted. > > The US has no need to try to make people like it; that should not > generally be a goal. But the world, especially including the capable > Western world, both governments and populations, has a responsibility > to educate those with abject ignorance, poverty, and knowing nothing > but conflict that there are better ways of being, limitless > opportunities, and that they could effectively work to modernize and > become effective societies and cultures. We need something similar > to 'genocide' to identify pathological ignorance, recognize that it > leads to the ruin of many lives, and determine how to take action to > stop it. There is no need for each culture to be exactly like the > West or a particular form of government, but they should understand > the options, understand how things can work effectively and why, and > be able to incorporate elements in a local way to eventually make it > work. We need to decide how hands off we should be in allowing large > areas to fumble about without making progress and even regress. The > prime directive should only apply to societies that are functioning > to a reasonable degree. > > An interesting question is whether and how poisoned thinking, i.e. > bad memes, are shared, instilled, and propagated to eventually create > terrorists and criminals: What should we do to prevent spreading > poisonous ideas? Should we be rooting out bad imams, literature, > religious leaders? Ideally, our values and culture is an effective > answer to these sources, but, just like in the biological world, > eventually a successful defense will occur. If you've read The > Selfish Gene, you know that truth, rightness, or goodness are not the > goals of particular genes or memes (ideas). The only thing that > determines success is successful competition and replication. Our > Western ideas can successfully compete and replicate against these > bad meme sets, but only if they are present. We seem to be in a > situation where some of our allies are supporting the teaching of > memes that are directly opposed to modern knowledge, including social > and political knowledge. What should we do about that? > > All of this is crosscutting to security, encryption, communication, > publishing, and surveillance. Distrust is healthy, and sometimes > prudent. And, if we fail totally as a modern society, we may need it > to maintain a modern underground in our new dark ages. In addition > to safe commerce and social connection, and balancing government and > keeping it healthy, we should even better organize and extend the > ways that we help enlighten the ignorant while combating meme cancer. > > I imagine that soon we'll have universally available Internet (LEOs > for instance), ultra-inexpensive devices (smart phones are down to > $50 or less now), and organized, complete, and effective educational > material that is somehow available, safe, and effective for > everyone. There should be some kind of support systems of various > kinds, to the extent possible. We are failing for not working toward > these kind of things effectively enough. > > sdw >