On 08/28/2016 10:57 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/28/2016 08:58 AM, Kurt Buff wrote:
>> Ants, termites and naked mole rats don't make for interesting SF.

Adrian Tchaikovsky's _Children of Time_ has good stuff about spiders
(Portia) and ants.

Greg Egan's _Clockwork Rocket_ features organisms like large paramecia
who live in a four dimensional space with no timelike dimension. And
they grow on you, after a while.

> Kind of fond of naked mole rats myself.
> 
> NOT fond of Reptilian Aliens... But They Live! really wasn't scifi. It
> was a documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8MYnSZnK4M
> 
> Humans are a slave species, digging for gold... And I'm all out of
> bubblebum.

That _is_ one of my favorite films :)

>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Razer <ray...@riseup.net
>> <mailto:ray...@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Ursula Le Guin recently called on Fantasy Fiction/SciFi writers to do
>>     something special. Visualize and write about a world without capitalism.
>>
>>     Rr
>>
>>     "People can visualize the end of the world but not the end of
>>     Capitalism" ~Adbusters (the journal of the mental environment)
>>
>>
>>     On 08/28/2016 01:12 AM, Александр wrote:
>>     > “We must always take sides”,
>>     > “Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages
>>     > the tormentor, never the tormented.” Elie Wiesel urged in his
>>     > spectacular Nobel Prize speech. And yet, part of the human tragedy is
>>     > that despite our best intentions and our most ardent ideals, we often
>>     > lull ourselves into _neutrality_ in the face of INjustice — be it
>>     out of
>>     > fear for our own stability, or lack of confidence in our ability
>>     to make
>>     > a difference, or that most poisonous foible of the soul, the
>>     two-headed
>>     > snake of cynicism and apathy.
>>     >
>>     > We must unmoor ourselves from a _passivity_ we so masterfully
>>     > rationalize, remembering that INjustice anywhere is a threat to
>>     justice
>>     > everywhere, and rise to that awareness with moral courage and dignity!
>>     >
>>     > If and when INjustice become so deeply embedded in a society without
>>     > strong revolt against it, then even those whom this INjustice
>>     oppresses
>>     > long enough -> end up internalizing, accepting and even justifying it!
>>     >
>>     > The shift from denial of INjustice to recognition of injustice
>>     can’t be
>>     > unmade. What your eyes have seen they have seen. Once you see the
>>     > INjustice, you can never again in good faith deny the oppression and
>>     > defend the oppressor. *What was loyalty is now betrayal. From now
>>     on, if
>>     > you don’t resist, you collude. *
>>     >
>>     > /ursula le guin
>>     >
>>     > ___
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > /
>>     > From Zenaan
>>     >
>>     >> Time to grow up folks. Own the damn mess. Clean up your shit. Get
>>     rid of
>>     >> those individuals who are evidently compromised in ways that can
>>     not be
>>     >> tolerated.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> and we get either banned from the public discussion (Juan, Alex
>>     > (afalex169) and others), OR booted from the community and Tor Inc with
>>     > disgrace (Jacob Applebaum).
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Yes, you sure do... plenty of work to clean up this mess -
>>     >> continue to pretend it does not exist at your peril.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> in Tor Inc as well as any other corporation and
>>     >> demoncratic governments around the world, sociopathic individuals
>>     >> predominate.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >> Tor Inc is not a "normal" company - none of you (employees of Tor
>>     Inc)
>>     > are held by us in
>>     >> the Tor community as "normal" employees or "regular" folks - we have
>>     >> been, are, and shall continue to hold you to a higher standard
>>     than we
>>     >> hold "normal" capitalist 'pigs' to.
>>     >
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     >
>>     >> And take good notice - it is perhaps most often your non-actions,
>>     which
>>     >> demonstrate your tacit support for evils done, which have the
>>     greatest
>>     >> consequences in our consciousness.
>>     >>
>>     >> Meet our (!!) standard and you shall stand as heroes.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >> Fail to meet our standard and you and your purported principles shall
>>     >> forever be "the ones who fell from grace, disgraced themselves and
>>     >> disgraced the community, spitting on the very principles we all
>>     held to
>>     >> be sacred and inviolable".
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     > __
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Time to participate folks. Every one.
>>     >
>>     > !!!
>>     >
>>     > ____
>>     >
>>     > *Thank you very much for this Message, Zenaan.
>>     > You are the voice of Suzie Dawson (suzi3d.com/
>>     <http://suzi3d.com/> <http://suzi3d.com/>),
>>     > mine and many other good-hearted People.
>>     >
>>     > It's time for Actions. It's time to REVOLT against this INtollerable
>>     > Evil and INjustice against Appelbaum... against ALL THE HIGHER
>>     > PRINCIPLES! It's time (and it was since the first day of this smear
>>     > campaign) to EXPOSE all the scumbags who created the slander against
>>     > Jake AND those who silently accepted it
>>     > ->
>>     > AND KICK THEIR FUCKEN ASSES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY!*
>>     >
>>
>>
> 

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