What was her motivation?  
Anyway, I think using the term, "free market" is more enlightening than 
"capitalism".  The need to raise and employ 'capital' is one part of a free 
market, but it could alsobe argued that even in a non-free-market, some form of 
capital must be used, somehow.Thus, "free market" and "capitalism" overlap, but 
are not the same thing.           Jim Bell

      From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net>
 To: cypherpunks@cpunks.org 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [Was: private] Now 'Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/'
   
Ursula Le Guin recently called on Fantasy Fiction/SciFi writers to do
something special. Visualize and write about a world without capitalism.

Rr

"People can visualize the end of the world but not the end of
Capitalism" ~Adbusters (the journal of the mental environment)


On 08/28/2016 01:12 AM, Александр wrote:
> “We must always take sides”,
> “Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages
> the tormentor, never the tormented.” Elie Wiesel urged in his
> spectacular Nobel Prize speech. And yet, part of the human tragedy is
> that despite our best intentions and our most ardent ideals, we often
> lull ourselves into _neutrality_ in the face of INjustice — be it out of
> fear for our own stability, or lack of confidence in our ability to make
> a difference, or that most poisonous foible of the soul, the two-headed
> snake of cynicism and apathy.
> 
> We must unmoor ourselves from a _passivity_ we so masterfully
> rationalize, remembering that INjustice anywhere is a threat to justice
> everywhere, and rise to that awareness with moral courage and dignity!
> 
> If and when INjustice become so deeply embedded in a society without
> strong revolt against it, then even those whom this INjustice oppresses
> long enough -> end up internalizing, accepting and even justifying it!
> 
> The shift from denial of INjustice to recognition of injustice can’t be
> unmade. What your eyes have seen they have seen. Once you see the
> INjustice, you can never again in good faith deny the oppression and
> defend the oppressor. *What was loyalty is now betrayal. From now on, if
> you don’t resist, you collude. *
> 
> /ursula le guin
> 
> ___
> 
> 
> /
> From Zenaan
> 
>> Time to grow up folks. Own the damn mess. Clean up your shit. Get rid of
>> those individuals who are evidently compromised in ways that can not be
>> tolerated.
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
> 
>> and we get either banned from the public discussion (Juan, Alex
> (afalex169) and others), OR booted from the community and Tor Inc with
> disgrace (Jacob Applebaum).
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
> 
>> Yes, you sure do... plenty of work to clean up this mess -
>> continue to pretend it does not exist at your peril.
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
> 
>> in Tor Inc as well as any other corporation and
>> demoncratic governments around the world, sociopathic individuals
>> predominate.
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
>> Tor Inc is not a "normal" company - none of you (employees of Tor Inc)
> are held by us in
>> the Tor community as "normal" employees or "regular" folks - we have
>> been, are, and shall continue to hold you to a higher standard than we
>> hold "normal" capitalist 'pigs' to.
> 
> __
> 
> !!!
> 
>> And take good notice - it is perhaps most often your non-actions, which
>> demonstrate your tacit support for evils done, which have the greatest
>> consequences in our consciousness.
>>
>> Meet our (!!) standard and you shall stand as heroes.
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
>> Fail to meet our standard and you and your purported principles shall
>> forever be "the ones who fell from grace, disgraced themselves and
>> disgraced the community, spitting on the very principles we all held to
>> be sacred and inviolable".
> 
> 
> !!!
> __
> 
> 
>> Time to participate folks. Every one.
>  
> !!!
> 
> ____
> 
> *Thank you very much for this Message, Zenaan.
> You are the voice of Suzie Dawson (suzi3d.com/ <http://suzi3d.com/>),
> mine and many other good-hearted People.
> 
> It's time for Actions. It's time to REVOLT against this INtollerable
> Evil and INjustice against Appelbaum... against ALL THE HIGHER
> PRINCIPLES! It's time (and it was since the first day of this smear
> campaign) to EXPOSE all the scumbags who created the slander against
> Jake AND those who silently accepted it
> ->
> AND KICK THEIR FUCKEN ASSES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY!*
> 


   

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