On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:54:41 -0500 John Newman <j...@synfin.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Someone who doesn't buy into a particular conspiracy does not > > > (necessarily) share any traits with the religious whack jobs that > > > burned witches at the stake. They were driven by ignorance and > > > religious fervor. > > > > Not really. Witch hunting, although a time honored > > joo-kristian tradition, isn't driven by ignorance. It's a political > > phenomenom (like religion itself). People who don't parrot > > the 'community's' party line are treated like criminals, or are > > considered 'sick' and need to be 'cured'. > > > > Of course, the hunters don't have any rational argument, > > but that's not the same thing, at all, as being ignorant. > > They are not just 'ignorant'. They are 'ignorant' on purpose. > > > > Whatever, you get my point. No, I don't get your point. What I seem to get quite well is that you are purposedly ignoring MY point(s). > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you would like to have it both ways - denying the > > > validity of science when it suits you, and at the same time using > > > your own brand of scientific speculation to support a particular > > > conspiracy, > > > > > > Except I never denied the validity of science. If anything, > > what you said describes you better than it describes me. > > > > The problem is that when you say Science, you are not really > > talking about a rational search for truth, which is also > > known as philosophjy. You are mostly talking about the > > establishment's party line, with a 'scientific' veneer. > > That's not at all what I'm talking about. You aren't the arbiter of > all that is correct. Neither are you nor your state-funded 'scientific' mafia. And your reply is just hand waving. > > > > > > > > again when it suits you. Either science is real, or it isn't. > > > Hint: science and the scientific method are fucking real. > > > > > > I never said that truth and rational inquiry are not > > 'real'. > > > > You've made plenty of outrageous claims - that global warming is a > hoax, That's an outragous claim for people like you. LMAO at you. You are the poster child for circular 'reasoning'. > that children can't suffer from cognitive disabilities, etc. I never said that. So again, disagreeing with your stupid enviro propganda that comes straight out of your fucking americunt nazi state doesn't make me a bible thumper. Did I ever mention that your blind faith in state science means you are a lot closer to bible thumpers than I am? > > > > > > > > > > > Huge mistakes in medical sciences have most definitely been made, > > > > Mistakes? Are you referring to the 'mistakes' of the > > 'medical' 'science' of psychiatry? As I explained above those are > > not mistakes. > > There have been mistakes besides atrocities like the lobotomy. Not mistakes. 'Curing' gays was not a mistake. And looks like you are an accomplice of the shitbags who did that kind of thing, by pretending they were not criminals but poor 'mistaken' altruists or something. > Early > experimentation with radiation, heparin adulteration out of china, AH the evil chinese. What the fuck has that got to do with 'science', fake or legitimate? > exploding breast implants, all sorts of toxic shit before the FDA came > around, etc, etc. Before the FDA came around. Spoken like a True American Anarchist eh John. Tsk tsk. You seem to be showing your true statist colors. By the way, radioactive 'cures' were aproved by your Progressive Scientifc Anarchist FDA. > > > > > And if you believe that rational inquiry can lead to that > > sort of 'mistake' you don't really understand what rational inquiry > > is, and you are in no position to lecture me or anynody else > > about 'science'. > > > > Rational inquiry is what leads to the correction of mistakes. I would > think that is obvious. > What is obvious to me is that you are either unable to understand what I'm saying, or ignoring it on purpose. I think it's more the later than the former. > > > > > > > but > > > they tend to be self correcting over time. That's how science > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >