Regarding the copyrights question:
The ICC profile that I got as the result of the conversion is 536 bytes, at 
least 29 of which are the ASCII name string that is equal to "Sony ILCE-5100 
Adobe Standard".
It contains only the following tags:
desc,
cprt (= "Copyright, the creator of this profile (generated by DCamProf 
v1.0.5)"),
wtpt (1 XYZ tuple),
rXYZ, rXYZ, rXYZ, (the most important and probably the only part we actually 
need — the color matrix),
and tone response curves which are just straight lines.

As I see, the only thing in the final ICC profile that could possibly be 
non-trivial enough to raise copyright questions is the 3x3 color matrix.


> On 4 May 2018, at 22:10, Sarge Borsch <sausagefacto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, I tried to edit an ICC file in a hex editor to put the values from that 
> website, and, just as expected, got nonsensical results.
> 
> After that I tried another idea to snatch better color profiles — I searched 
> the web for Adobe Camera Raw package, extracted the profiles from it (they 
> are in .dcp format), and figured that it's possible to convert them to ICC by 
> dcamprof.
> They seem to work very well — better than the currently built-in input 
> profiles for sony a5100 in darktable.
> Now what do you think about the copyright status of these converted ICC 
> profiles? Can they legally be distributed with darktable, or should I keep 
> them only for myself?
> They are a lot smaller than the source .dcc files, probably because they 
> don't keep nothing valuable except the color matrices. So are 3x3 numeric 
> matrices copyrightable?
> 
> If you think these profiles can be officially added to darktable, I may fix 
> the name tags and submit a pull request.
> 
>> On 4 May 2018, at 17:14, Sarge Borsch <sausagefacto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I see that there are measured color responses at 
>> https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Sony/A5100---Measurements
>> Hence the question: is it a good idea to try to take the built-in profile 
>> and replace the primaries with these measured values, in order to get closer 
>> to the in-camera JPEG color rendering? (or are they already used?)
>> 
>> I'm asking that because I've noticed that none of the built-in input color 
>> profiles for sony a5100 allows me to get close to the in-camera JPEG colors.
>> The 2 of them which are the closest to the correct rendering (that is, 
>> matching camera JPEG, which is quite good when judging by eye) are the 
>> "standard color matrix" and "linear Rec2020 RGB".
>> Both of them wildly differ from the in-camera JPEG in deep blue colors: 
>> "standard color matrix" causes them to be clipped and to look really 
>> unnatural, and "linear Rec2020 RGB" looks more or less natural, but the hue 
>> is obviously different (blue gets moved to cyan). Hence I started to wonder 
>> how easy is it to get a better color profile.
>> 
>> I know that ideally this should be done with a color chart, but I don't have 
>> one and don't have spare money for it at the moment.
>> 
>> Also I can share a shot of the example object (Raw + JPEG) which has such 
>> problematic color if anyone wants to test it, too.
> 

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