? On Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 10:02 PM Bruce Williams <stu...@audio2u.com> wrote:
> Bill, > Thanks for the clarification! > See, as someone who doesn't know how to write code, those are things that > I wouldn't even KNOW to think of! > And why I was cautious about the way I worded my questions. > As Rumsfeld said, "We don't know what we don't know." > And what you've laid out makes perfect sense. > It all gives me a clearer picture of why things are the way they are. > Would I LIKE to help out with the documentation? > Yeah, I would. > Do I have the time to actually lend a hand? > Sadly not. > I already struggle to keep up with my own self-imposed timetable for > putting out new videos. > > *That we want to correctly document the way the software actually works?* > > Yeah, good point! > I'll get back in my box now. :) > What the developers do on this project is nothing short of amazing. > I reckon darktable ranks as one of the shining lights in the world of > FOSS. It's awesome. > Thanks to yourself and everyone else involved. > Cheers. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.8.0 released > To: darktable-user <darktable-user@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 7:40 PM Bruce Williams <stu...@audio2u.com> wrote: > >> Pascal, >> I was just having a conversation about this very topic with Chris. >> Who took the stance that developers can submit new features/modules/etc >> WITHOUT providing documentation? >> > > I think up a module that will turn an "a" into a "b". You have to push > this, pull that, twist something, etc, etc, etc. I start writing the > module and realize > I made some bad assumptions, counted on things to work differently than > they do, etc, etc, etc. In the end I have a module that takes an "a" and > turns it into a "b" > but to make it work you kick this, shove that, etc. Then I submit a PR so > that others can test my new module. Someone does something that I didn't > think of and > then I change the behavior again. And another bug is found, etc, etc, > etc. At the end of this journey I have a working module that turns an "a" > into a "b". It looks and > works differently than I thought it would. At this point, I can document > the module because it's in its final form. If I documented at the start, > the documentation > wouldn't match the software. > > There are ~20 developers and probably less than half are native English > speakers. There are 2 darktable manual maintainers. Feature freeze is 30 > days before release. > Bug fixing continued up until the release tarballs were created and 4.8.1 > already has multiple fixes in it. > > We need more people helping with the documentation. Want to sign up? > > That seems like such an odd stance to take. >> > > That we want to correctly document the way the software actually works? > > Apologies if it sounds like I'm trying to stir up trouble... not my >> intention! >> Just trying to understand why the maintainer (whoever that might be) >> would allow new software to be released to the public without supporting >> documentation. >> > > Most open source projects have just a readme file. I don't recall > documentation being stressed prior to Mica and Chris taking over the > manual, but now it is. > So in some ways we're better, but we have lots of room for improvement. > > Bill > > Cheers. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Pascal Obry <pas...@obry.net> >> Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.8.0 released >> To: Willy Williams <grayc...@bolthole.net>, < >> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org> >> >> >> Le mardi 25 juin 2024 à 10:05 -0400, Willy Williams a écrit : >> > Have to ask - when will the manual accompanying v4.8.0 be released, >> > or am I once again looking in the wrong place? >> >> You are at the right place and the answer is easy... when it is done. >> >> If you want to help, please contact the doc maintainers. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) >> >> The best way to travel is by means of imagination >> >> http://photos.obry.net >> >> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
