Am 31.12.2012 01:14, schrieb Eckhart Pedersen:
> On 2012-12-31 00:03, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
>> One post on behalf of Pascal de Bruijn
> Very much appreciated, thank you!
>> Hi,
>>
>> Time to get some confusion out of the way.
>>
>> A typical complete camera input profile consist of two things: curves
>> and an XYZ matrix.
>>
>> The default color processing of Darktable (and most other open source
>> raw converters) use the Adobe DNG D65 XYZ color matrix (camera
>> specific), but that means the curve is missing. Which we complement by
>> applying a mostly brand specific basecurve.
> Does this mean that if I were to create my own input profile based on a 
> test chart and with the correct settings, I would be able to get (more 
> or less) natural looking images without a base curve?

No. You need both. The XYZ matrix for color mapping and the curve for
brightness mapping. darktable is already doing its best to provide you a
"natural" looking image, natural by definition of your camera vendor.

[...]
>> So if you disable the basecurve in darktable it's completely expected
>> that a RAW files will look dull, since the data is still linear (at
>> least to the extent that the raw sensor data is linear to begin with)
>> then.
> I did not expect this. Again, if I do my own input profile (and do it 
> correctly), would I not be able to do without the base profile?

Profile == XYZ + base curve. You can not avoid the base curve.

>> The difference between the curves:
>> Basecurve in camera RGB (before colorin)
>> Tonecurve in Lab colorspace (after colorin)
> Right now I do not understand what you are saying, but it is late and I 
> may have been drinking too much wine. If I have further questions, I 
> will post them tomorrow...
>> This is made visible by turning off plugin grouping in darkroom mode,
>> which I've demonstrated time and time again in my screencasts,
> My apologies, I have not seen all screencasts. I will try to catch up 
> tomorrow.
>>   so you
>> can see the static order in which plugins are applied (bottom to top).
>> These plugins account for everything being done, not just
>> "corrections".

I this topic has been addressed because of Marie-Noelle.

Regards,
Markus

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