I’m with DRC on this one… This isn’t RIPE’s call to make, it’s the UN’s. You’re barking up the wrong tree.
-Bill
> On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:09 AM, William Weber via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
>
> Did anything ever happen with this? I still have to use Albania and with the
> new country set in ORGs i and other ISPs in Kosovo have even more problems
> now.
>
> We are extremely unhappy with this situation, the RIPE NCC and Dutch
> government can expect an official complaint letter from the Kosovarian
> government very soon if there is not even any attempt at talking with us/the
> gov and fixing this issue.
>
> I simply do not understand how we can be entirely ignored while even our
> banks usem XK IBANs and Euro as currency, it is absurd.
>
> --
> William
> BASEHOST SHPK
> Pristina, Kosovo
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:33 PM William Weber <will...@inbox.li> wrote:
> In the end i dont care, Kosovo is a country (acknowledged by 50%+ of UN
> members including NL)
> and i want to be able to use it as intended.
>
> —
> William
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 13.05.2022, at 21:58, David Conrad <d...@virtualized.org> wrote:
>>
>> William,
>>
>>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:11 AM, William Weber via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
>>> I am aware the the X* series of codes is reserved and not permanently
>>> assigned, however UN Security Council resolution 1244/99 (see 6) mandates
>>> the use binding to all UN members.
>>>
>>
>> The “X*” series is not reserved, they are (permanently) designated for
>> “user-assigned” use. Think 10/8. Anyone (including RIPE) can use them for
>> whatever purpose they so choose, just as anyone can use 10/8. Of course,
>> your use and my use might conflict, but that’s for us to work out between us
>> (with the obvious scaling implications that suggests).
>>
>> FYI, EU is different in that it is “exceptionally reserved”. It is one of a
>> number of ISO-3166 codes that have that status (including UK, AC, DG, SU,
>> and a few others). AP is a bit weird (IMHO) in that ISO-3166 Maintenance
>> Agency has stated that they will not use the code “at the present stage.” I
>> gather that’s an informal agreement between ISO-3166/MA and WIPO. I’ve no
>> clue what that means for the long-term status of that code.
>>
>> The real question is what would break if RIPE chooses to use a user assigned
>> code in their database. I’ve no idea, but to be honest, I’m a bit
>> uncomfortable with the precedent it might set (and political foodfight it
>> might generate given the UN Statistical Agency hasn’t seen fit to recommend
>> the creation of an actual ISO-3166 code). However, I doubt my comfort
>> matters.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, your reference to UN Security Council resolution
>> 1244/99 is irrelevant, particularly as it (appropriately, given the status
>> of the ISO-3166 code) doesn’t mention XK.
>>
>> FWIW, Jaap Akkerhuis, a person well known to many on this list, is extremely
>> well-versed in the world of ISO-3166 and could probably provide any info you
>> might need related to the use of ISO-3166 codes.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -drc
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