I think this is a fine idea, I have quite a bit of experience with building 
PDF's on the fly with PHP. If this documentation is maintained in a database, 
casual surfers could peruse an HTML version, and a current PDF version could 
be generated with largely the same code on the spot. 

I'd be willing to donate time for this. I know there's current documentation 
software out there as well, I bet I could build dynamic PDF code for that 
too. 

I'd also be willing to write, which I'm not bad at if that's needed. 

I really like the ability for users to post comments such as is used on the 
php site and (badly IMHO) on the mysql site. 

I've got a server I could host this stuff on too if dbmail.org wants a doc 
subdomain, or a mirror. 

-Micah


On Wed June 18 2003 4:54 am, Feargal Reilly wrote:
> Since I started this thread, here's my thoughts.
>
> Documentation is *always* the hardest thing to get people to do.
>
> If somebody has decent coding ability, they'll prefer to contribute to a
> project by fixing bugs, or adding features. (They will of course fail to
> document these contributions too :) )
>
> There are usually a slew of users who do not have the ability to
> contribute in this way, but they do have the experience of MAKING IT
> WORK. These are the people who think, "Wow! This really helped me out, I
> wish I could give something back." They may be sysadmins who don't code,
> but know how to read man pages. They may be C hackers who faint at the site
> of Perl. Whatever. Given the opportunity to present their experiences
> though, they will.
>
> And since this is the hardest thing to get people to do, you have to make
> it as easy as possible for them. Given this, as much as I love LaTeX, and
> as useful CVS is, very few people will learn the unfamiliar just to
> contribute a flag they found useful with procmail.
>
> It was with this in mind, for another project that I hacked up a web
> interface for people to use. I've thrown it up an example at
> http://www.helgrim.com/dbmaildocs/
>
> The interface is at http://www.helgrim.com/dbmaildocs/manage/ username and
> password is 'guest'
>
> Everything is stored in a database, HTML generated on the fly, PDFs
> periodically. Since it's aimed at HTML, there'd be no problem generating
> LaTeX files too.
>
> There'd be no problem setting it as docs.dbmail.com, or for the dbmail guys
> to grab the files periodically.
>
> Comments?
>
> -fr.
>
> --
> Feargal Reilly,
> Codeshifter,
> Chrysalink Systems.
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:26:14 +0200
>
> Magnus Sundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > lou wrote:
> > > In some email I received from Roel Rozendaal - IC&S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
> > > Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:17:08 +0200, wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > I think so, easy to update, and add automatically date automatically
> > > for the last update also it's very simple.
> > > I also think LaTeX.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas? Since we manage to agree on the future existence of
> > > dbmail-doc. There're some more stuff to be discussed. Forms and stuff,
> > > blahblah you know.
> >
> > I disagree on the LaTex issue, I believe we should use the
> > infrastructure from the Linux Documentation Project. To make it
> > consistent with most other documentation.
> >
> > Another approach is some kind of databse driven manual, something
> > like the online mysql manual with comments.
> >
> > I doubt I will be writing any documents of the former type, but I
> > am quite shure I will contribute with comments to the later.
> >
> > Magnus
> >
> >
> >
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