Oranges and Apples, I agree to that. I happily use dbmail as well as  
my qmail/vpopmail setup. Every system has it quirks and shortcommings.


> To address your two points though:
>
> I have found that since linux kernel 2.6 series, LVM snapshots have
> caused system lockups. I used it happily in the 2.4 series. Besides
> that, I did mention *impact-free*. Adding a snapshot and reading  
> from a
> snapshot severely impacts the speed of the running system. Yes you  
> get a
> clean backup, but the hard disk is being placed under a huge read
> strain, not to mention the extra COW load for every write to the
> filesystem.

Yes, but after backing to the snapshot to some place one can remove it  
and the speed will be back to normal. So, running a db slave and using  
mysqldump for backups is not much different.

> I believe that dbmail on MySQL requires the use of InnoDB, which I
> believe (or has this recently changed?) does not support Full Text
> Index. Maybe using something like Sphinx as a bolt-on would be handy  
> for
> doing IMAP searches. I generally sync all my emails to my desktop
> machine and do any searches on the local copies. Then searches don't
> impact the servers :)
>
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 01:00 +0100, Daniel Urstöger wrote:
>> I do not want to add to this quite "hot" situation, but there are  
>> two things worth mentioning:
>>
>>> * I'd like to see impact-free daily backups for filesystem-based
>>> systems. With dbmail, just have a slave replica you can pause
>>> replication on to get a perfect snapshot, with no impact on the live
>>> database during the backup duration.
>>
>> That is actually possible, not with the same features, but one  
>> could use the snapshot features from LVM to achieve that.
>> Create and mount that snapshot on your backup box and well, do with  
>> it whatever you like.
>>
>> The other thing I think is worth mentioning is especially about  
>> MySQL: the Full Text Index ( FTI ) is quite bad for searches,
>> if you reach a certain amount of data, also looking through all the  
>> records without any index is quite slow.
>> I have no comparison of flat file storage compared with database  
>> stored messages, but for MySQL there is soon to be a new search /  
>> index technology available,
>> which hopefully will also get implemented in dbmail (?), called  
>> sphinx search.
>> I have used it lately (beta version) in a project and the speed  
>> compared to MySQL with FTI was quite remarkable.
>
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