Juan Sequeda wrote:
> Kingsley,
>
> Definitely without a good UI, it is very hard to use this.
But please understand, we built a faceted "search and find" engine with 
an *API for Linked Data application developers* to use [1]. The basic UI 
was about demonstrating the capabilities of the underlying engine which 
comes down to the time-less challenge of scalable faceted search, find, 
and reasoner based data reconciliation over Billions of triples.

Searching on pattern: Johann, using either faceted "search and find" UI 
is how you get to the essence of the matter addressed by our engine 
level (which I also outlined in my initial response to Christian).

Your response falls into to the same category as those seeking a better 
DBpedia UI from the same folks responsible for preparing and publishing 
its Linked Data corpus.

I maintain that Linked Data -- a by-product of HTTP's sophistication -- 
is about separation and specialization, everyone has a binding layer 
that aligns to their interests and skill set. For instance, going back 
to a time long before the Web, we had this kind of separation in the 
ODBC realm. By this I mean: one set of people built ODBC compliant 
applications, another set built ODBC drivers. The success of ODBC (to 
this very day) lies in the fact the ODBC compliant applications are 
distinct from ODBC drivers .

When all is said and done, Linked Data is a more powerful solution for 
the problem space addressed by ODBC, so best to embrace and extend the 
best practices from that realm.

Links:

1. 
http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtuosoFacetsWebService

Kingsley
>
> When I get to step 2, I see 4312 types. Am I suppose to go through all 
> of these and select the ones I need? There should be a unselect all 
> button.
>
> How can I use lod.openlinksw.com <http://lod.openlinksw.com> to FIND 
> all actors who were born in NYC and died in 2003 in NYC? it is very 
> easy to do it with the dbpedia faceted browser:
>
> http://dbpedia.neofonie.de/browse/rdf-type:Actor/personBirthPlace:New%20York%20City/personDeathPlace:New%20York%20City/personDeathDate-year:2003/?fc=12
Yes, the UI isn't as easy as Christian's for this specific query (which 
requires yanking out the "year of death" from the typed literal data for 
date of death). Just as Christian's browser doesn't handle the ambiguous 
quest for pattern: Johann (which requires the use of entity "Type" and 
"Properties" pivoting to disambiguate the underlying query).


Kingsley
>
> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
> Dept. of Computer Sciences
> The University of Texas at Austin
> www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
> www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Kingsley Idehen 
> <kide...@openlinksw.com <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>     Grobe, David Michael wrote:
>     > hello:
>     >
>     > I can't find Johann Wolfgang von Goethe using new faceted
>     browser...starting with "Johan" in the Persons section, but I can
>     find him by starting with birthdate...
>     >
>     > can someone tell me why?
>     >
>     > thanks,
>     >
>     > michael grobe
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     Micheal,
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>     Please repeat this exercise using the faceted finder at:
>     http://dbpedia.org/fct  or http://lod.openlinksw.com (which is a 7.5
>     Billion+ cache of most of the Linked Open Data Cloud  plus a number of
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>     Steps:
>
>     1. Enter text pattern: Johan
>     2. Click on "Types" link within the Navigation section (to your right)
>     3. Flick on the links which filters by type
>     4. If need be click on "Properties" to further filter by properties
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>     values"
>     to see result of your filtering
>
>     That's it.
>
>     UI could be better, but we've focused on the harder task of
>     building an
>     engine that offers faceted "search and find" :-)
>
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