Not only that, then what is the list for if we can't ask questions?
The other choice is read, read, read.
I do look on-line for answers, for things I did know, but forgot, often my 
answer is in the search results page, and I don't even have to open the link.
But a list is for questions by people who would like assistance, not 
admonishment.
Glenn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 2:39 AM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  That's what I do, I read the documents.


  But it's unclear which selection is without the DE (Desktop Environment).


  So much depends on advanced knowledge when reading these documents. This 
should not be necessary for a person coming to Debian to install the most 
simplest system of all: A Command Line Interface system.


  In the installer, hints of what should be installed should be given.


  Most new people wouldn't even know what DE means.


  I don't know and you have not told me, if you know that the default 
selections in the installer install a Graphic User Interface. It's marked 
"Debian Desktop Environment" and it's the same as selecting "Mate".


  Years ago there was a text mode Desktop Environment that gave a menu and 
configuration options for a strictly text mode installation.


  Many people think that's what they're selecting when they choose Debian 
Desktop Environment but it's no longer that.


  If people don't mention these things, how will developers ever know how and 
what to change?


  I could make snarky comments to you about subjects you're not an expert in, 
but I won't do that. Professionals usually have a helpful attitude and I expect 
to be treated that way and I demand that I treat others that way.


  Regards,


  David 







  On Mon, May 29, 2023, 02:57 john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com> wrote:

    On 5/29/23 04:33, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
    > I've had it work that way Martin,  but it's not working for Glenn.
    >
    > I also don't understand what you mean by "I start the installer with 
medium
    > priority" - I've never seen a choice.

    It's there in the advance mode, mind the accessibility wiki!

    >
    > It should be an explicit choice to have a configured Debian Command Line
    > Interface (CLI) Text Mode.
    At the prompt that ask for what package to install, select the one
    without DE.

    Instead of ranting/complaining, I would suggest you to read the
    extensive Debian's doc.

    --
    John Doe

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