I have had fairly good results when trying the boot – – wait – and – select – option – (lol)! Method of installation.
what I mean by that is this: once I can manage to get the boot menu for my particular bios, to allow me to boot, whatever media be at CD, ROM, or USB, high, then wait sufficiently long enough that I suspect the "installation or live "menu is present. Then I simply hit the letter S and the enter key… Continue to wait more… Then I'm presented with what is a texti mode only Consol with virtual TTY's available… That talks!   I would like some assistance from those of you, who are in the know as to how I would… And be specific… Precisely make every Boutte option on the menu load speech… Yes… I know this is considered to be a re-authoring of the image… But that is precisely what I'm looking to do.  why is that? Well… Is it because I want to potentially create a set of installation media… For my server stack… Should I ever need it… I'm trying to build a Home lab for accessibility… So I can run hopefully, and NVDA gateway server… And try and work on helping others who want to run Linux develop their own sensible accessibility "environment "…. I've only been blind since 2012… I am now new to accessibility and such… And had to mostly retire from my field… So I guess in my dotage… Lol! I find it necessary to do this…   

are there any of you also out there? Very familiar with Dell poweredge are 805 servers? I got some questions I need answered… Lol.
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On May 29, 2023, at 03:42, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n...@arrl.net> wrote:


That's what I do, I read the documents.

But it's unclear which selection is without the DE (Desktop Environment).

So much depends on advanced knowledge when reading these documents. This should not be necessary for a person coming to Debian to install the most simplest system of all: A Command Line Interface system.

In the installer, hints of what should be installed should be given.

Most new people wouldn't even know what DE means.

I don't know and you have not told me, if you know that the default selections in the installer install a Graphic User Interface. It's marked "Debian Desktop Environment" and it's the same as selecting "Mate".

Years ago there was a text mode Desktop Environment that gave a menu and configuration options for a strictly text mode installation.

Many people think that's what they're selecting when they choose Debian Desktop Environment but it's no longer that.

If people don't mention these things, how will developers ever know how and what to change?

I could make snarky comments to you about subjects you're not an expert in, but I won't do that. Professionals usually have a helpful attitude and I expect to be treated that way and I demand that I treat others that way.

Regards,

David 




On Mon, May 29, 2023, 02:57 john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com> wrote:
On 5/29/23 04:33, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> I've had it work that way Martin,  but it's not working for Glenn.
>
> I also don't understand what you mean by "I start the installer with medium
> priority" - I've never seen a choice.

It's there in the advance mode, mind the accessibility wiki!

>
> It should be an explicit choice to have a configured Debian Command Line
> Interface (CLI) Text Mode.
At the prompt that ask for what package to install, select the one
without DE.

Instead of ranting/complaining, I would suggest you to read the
extensive Debian's doc.

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John Doe

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