Hi Michael,

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:30:18 -0600
Michael Shuler <mich...@pbandjelly.org> wrote:

> Control: tags -1 + pending
> 
> On 11/25/2015 11:28 AM, Andrew Ayer wrote:
> > ca-certificates hasn't been updated since April 2015.  Since then,
> > 14 CAs have been removed from the NSS root store[1, 2].
> > ca-certificates in stable hasn't been updated since October 2014.
> > Since then, 6 additional CAs have been removed[3, 4].
> > ca-certificates in oldstable is even older.
> 
> The April release contained the 2.4 bundle from Mozilla. CA bundle 2.5
> was recently released in NSS and an upload to unstable is being
> prepped.

I'm not sure what these version numbers are.  NSS 3.19.3 was released
on August 7 and removed 5 CAs[1].  So why no release of ca-certificates
until now?

[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/CIrDdx1e9EI

> Main git repo:
> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/ca-certificates.git
> 
> My working git repo (ie, bundle 2.6 is already branched):
> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/mshuler-guest/ca-certificates.git
> 
> > This is concerning because some of the removed CAs have failed or
> > are no longer conducting audits, which means we have no idea what
> > security practices they are currently following.  Applications on
> > Debian which use the ca-certificates store still trust these CAs,
> > putting users at risk.  For example, the e-Guven root certificate,
> > which was removed from the NSS store in April due to "insufficient
> > and outdated audits"[5, 6], continues to be trusted in stable and
> > oldstable.
> > 
> > First, could we get an update soon to ca-certificates that reflects
> > these removals?
> 
> Yes.

Thank you!

> > Second, could ca-certificates be updated more frequently in the
> > future? Security Team, could updates to ca-certificates be pushed
> > out through security.debian.org for (old)stable?
> 
> For stable/oldstable releases, it may be appropriate for them to go
> through the stable-updates suite.

OK.  As a data package that needs timely updating, it should qualify
for stable-updates.  As I understand the process, this requires
uploading to proposed-updates, and then the Stable Release Managers
pull it over to stable-updates[2].

[2] https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates

> > If there is an issue of manpower, I'm willing to help co-maintain
> > ca-certificates (I'm a DM) and prepare packages for
> > security.debian.org. We're lucky that Mozilla runs such a great
> > root program: it's thorough and responsive, and aligns with
> > Debian's values by being open and community-driven.  Let's take
> > full advantage of it in Debian!
> 
> I try to track upstream releases and attend to bug reports as quickly
> as possible, but patches are always welcomed. With several uploaders,
> I'm not sure there needs to be another uploader, but sending patches
> to fix things in the BTS would certainly be helpful.

Great! I will pay attention to your Git repo and do what I can to help
out.

Thanks,
Andrew

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