Hello,

Helge Kreutzmann <deb...@helgefjell.de> schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 12:27:

> Package: manpages-hu
> Version: 20010119-7
> Severity: serious
> Justification: Policy 2.3
> X-Debbugs-Cc: Mario Blättermann <mario.blaetterm...@gmail.com>
>
> Short:
> man8/ssh.8 states:
> .\" Copyright (c) 1995 Tatu Ylonen <y...@cs.hut.fi>, Espoo, Finland
> .\"                    All rights reserved
>
> Long:
> The copyright situation is very unclear. I reviewed some files and besides
> the above one some are "GNU licensed" (without version), some require
> redistribution of copyright information in binary versions (I'm not sure
> if
> 2.3 Nr.3 remedies this), while others don't come with any statement at all.
> And debian/copyright places the burden of proof on the users in case
> comercial
> distribution is intended (e.g. Debian downstreams like Ubuntu). I wonder
> how
> this passed debian-legal?
>
> (This is just a selection, e.g. man.7,tsort.1,as.1 are interesting as
> well…)
>
> I tried looking at the mentioned upstream homepage, i.e.
> http://lme.linux.hu/forditas/index.html
> but this page is down atm.
>
> To resolve this bug, I suggest the following:
> 1. Remove all pages like ssh.8 which are clearly not distributable
>    (After contacting with upstream or the respective authors they might
>     be included in later versions again, if the license is updated)
>
> 2. Create a machine readable copyright including all authors (both of the
>    english version and the respective translators) and the respective
> licenses.
>
> 3. Get the copyrights reviewed, e.g. on debian-legal, possibly catching
> more pages
>    which cannot be distributed.
>
> 4. Check with upstream about a newer version. The pages are *old*. Is this
> really a
>    service to your users?


See below for the plans to get rid of this outdated stuff.


> 5. Talk to manpages-l10n for integration of those pages, where copyright
> allows so.
>    This way the maintance both for legal reasons and for updating (we use
> po4a) is
>    vastly improved. Bonus if some translators are available, who could
> update the
>    pages (its much easier with po4a).
>

We are planning to merge the remaining outdated manpages-* packages into
manpages-l10n anyway. So manpages-hu will be the next candidate for the
import. I will create a framework for Hungarian soon, and import the old
files step by step. The creation of the translated versions remains
disabled until the import is finished; once it is done, manpages-hu needs
to be removed from Debian to avoid package conflicts.

Best Regards,
Mario

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