2009/6/16 Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:59:23AM +0200, Frank Lahm wrote:
> >2009/6/16 Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk>
> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Frank Lahm wrote:
> >> >2009/6/16 Itai Seggev <is+deb...@cs.hmc.edu>
> >> >> Any other suggestions?
> >> >
> >> >Although you're only reporting this problem with a rc and the final
> >> >is alread available, whatever causes your error may still be
> >> >present. Therefore I'm digging into this and will be talkin to the
> >> >libtool folks. Stay tuned.
> >>
> >> I believe that this issue can be solved upstream by adding
> >> AM_MAINTAINER_MODE to configure.in and using a more recent libtool
> >> when preparing release tarballs.
> >
> >I've just took another look at Debian list of patches to netatalk. As
> >it seems you're touching configure.in amongst others. I'm not familiar
> >with the workings of the Debian package building tools, but I guess in
> >order for these patches to be applied they must re-run the Autotools
> >toolchain, do they? If they do, it might be an issue in how they do
> >that.
>
> Yes, that might certainly be an issue.  And if that is an issue, the
> solution is *not* to compile unpatched code by hand, but to fix that
> issue.

I was suggesting to _compile_ and see if the issue comes from upstream
or from your patches. I wasn't suggesting to compile and run that
"unpatched code" ! I'm trying to track it down in order to fix it.

> You've asked those patches before, and I told you not (as upstream) to
> worry about those pathces to autogenerated files): I agree that they are
> not of concern for upstream.

But you are *not* patching _generated_ files here. You are patching
configure.in in this case. ??

> ...
> I believe that the problem here is *not* with those files, however.  As
> I wrote already, I beleive it is tied to libtool: Debian use a much
> newer libtool that used upstream, and it seems (also experienced in
> other packages that I maintain) that if libtool acts up (which can be
> suppressed my AM_MAINTAINER_MODE that you sadly do not use currently),
> then too big differences in versions of libtool and automake won't work.

AM_MAINTAINER_MODE might indeed fix this issue, but afaict the problem
is caused because you touch autoconf stuff (configure.in, m4 macros)
and rerun autotools. AM_MAINTAINER_MODE can then prevent this problem
from occurring because it ensures proper regenaration of the toolchain
(that's really all it does -- not some kind of libtool versioning
check or whatever).

> That's why I explicitly requestes to test from scratch, not continue to
> try build same unpacked source, that has now gone sour.

Good idea of course.

> >@Itai: please try to configure and make the unpatched tarball as
> >available from the Debian archive
> ><http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/netatalk/netatalk_2.0.4~rc2.orig.tar.gz>
>
> What would be the point of such test?

See whether your patches and build system cause problems or the
problem is caused by the netatalk package _as is_.

> Please note that this Bug Tracker relates to packaged software, not
> upstream.

Yeah, and bugs that effect upstream have always been reported there
too... I'm just actively digging into this because I'm afraid it might
be some _upstream_ issue.

-Frank



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