On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:59:57AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > Effectively, the standardisation process and related resolution of licensing > issues for the new codec are one of the things holding back a "proper" 1.2.4 > release.
Whatever the real reasons for mumble upstream dragging its feet on making this easier for people to test may be, these aren't it. If they were real problems then Debian and its derivatives would not be shipping this, Fedora and Gentoo would not be shipping this, Firefox would not be shipping with support for this, gstreamer would not be shipping with support for this, mangler would not be shipping with support for this ... etc. etc. etc. And they especially would not be doing so with the encouragement and support of the developers from the CODEC working group and the holders of all relevant licences, who have been actively guiding and driving this rollout ... People with a much bigger stake in this than you have would be crying foul if there were even the smallest suspicion of such problems being real. Including myself. I'm even pretty sure you were around when this was discussed on IRC, so ... > So for reliable support, the safer bet would be to wait for 1.2.4; until > then, > it's under development and may break in weird ways. Which is not to say this part might not be true. But only because of bugs that purely exist in mumble alone, not any other cause. I personally don't see how making it artificially hard for people to test it is going to make it stop breaking "in weird ways" any sooner ... but ymmv. Maybe people should look at the Mangler package and ventrilo if they really just want something that actually works today and they aren't concerned about the compromises they need to make to get that - which seems to be the ongoing theme here. They managed to get that working with opus in just a couple of days, and with none of the ED grade drama that we seem to be seeing here. Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org