On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 02:11:24AM +0100, Danai SAE-HAN wrote: > > From: Ming Hua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 另外我有两点想法: > > > > 一、Debian 安装程序和安装手册虽然由不同的人负责翻译,但是两者的版面格式 > > 大致相同,比如中文和英文之间加半角空格,用半角括号,等等。Release notes > > 的中文版面格式和这两个翻译完全不一样。从界面一致性的角度看,有没有必要和 > > 安装程序及安装手册保持相似的格式? > > I subscribe exactly what you say in your 第一想法. The layout is not > exactly consistent: half-width and full-width characters are used > without much regard for typesetting rules (no accusation or reproach > intended).
Given that different projects are led by different people, and there seems to be no official typesetting or layout setting for simplified Chinese, this is not surprising. > I'm convinced that the angle from which we should make up such > typesetting rules should be from a LaTeX perspective. It is after all > the engine which finally produces the PDF documents. The (X)HTML > language is still too much in its infancy in order to distill > typographical rules from it. > > I have a few suggestions. [specific LaTeX typesetting suggestions] For the case in point, Debian release notes is written in Debian SGML, and both the HTML and LaTeX are auto-generated. So I suppose using the specific LaTeX CJK typesetting syntax is not really practical here. > Hanzi in italics are downright ugly. A better way to emphasize hanzi > is to underline them, since the baseline for each hanzi is exactly the > same (unlike roman characters like "g" or "j"). An ideal way would be > to use a different font altogether, but we are (currently) only > limited to two fonts provided by Arphic. > > The old tfm-arphic-* used freetype1-tools which allowed the ad hoc > creation of italic font shapes. The new latex-cjk-chinese-arphic-* > packages are instead created with Fontforge and use Type1 fonts and > fontmaps. The only way to get italics is to create such a font with > Fontforge "skewing" each font shape with roughly 10 degrees. This > takes too much time, effort and HD space IMHO, and italic hanzi are > ugly anyway. > > Any suggestions for DFSG-free fonts to be packaged that can act as > italics? Or shall we stick to underlining hanzi with emphasis? I also think italic Hanzi is ugly and shouldn't used at all. I also think Kai style works great as emphasis when the main typeface is Song/Ming style. I believe this is even used in formal Chinese publications. > P.S.: debiandoc2latex now works with the updated latex-cjk. For > example, "debiandoc2latexpdf -l zh_{TW,CN} -s ./bin/fixlatex *.sgml" > now works without problems. Yes, I tested it the other day and it worked. Thanks a lot for helping to fix that bug. Ming 2006.12.13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]