* Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-14 13:20]: > - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there > are some archs already have a working wanna-build access since days, > namely mips, mipsel and powerpc.
> I really feel discriminated by this situation. And it's clearly an evil plot against you/m68k as can be seen in the graph above. If I look at it, I see that most buildds are not working, with some exceptions. > It seems as if the archs that are managed by Ryan Murray are > preferred in their restoring process This might be related to the fact that Ryan is responsible for the whole buildd infrastructure. Clearly it must be easier to get his buildds running, then others, as the latter involves coordination with others, etc. And please remember that this is not a competition between e.g. mips and m68k. We're trying to restore our services, and obviously the crucial or easy ones come first. You have to start with on buildd, and it's fairly obvious to start with the one you're in control of. > whereas others doesn´t even get a status update when Mails like http://mailman.nocrew.org/pipermail/m68k-build/2003-November/007792.html or http://mailman.nocrew.org/pipermail/m68k-build/2003-December/007932.html show that updates are being made, or information being asked for needed for the restoration. > - James Troup wrote then (as a reply I think) on Thu, December 11, > 2003 19:34 a mail to m68k-build list to get a status about the m68k > buildd machines (new ssh key, kernel info, etc.). He then got > answers he asked for. So basically your complaint is that after 3 days (including the weekend, so effectively 1 business day) it's not fixed yet. Sorry, I just cannot take your complaint seriously. I'm not saying that everything's perfect, but I know that debian-admin is working as hard as they can. I also know that James for example fixed nm.d.o on Friday and worked on a very important issue which is more important than any buildd (or than nm.d.o). And he's away for the weekend. Of course, I'd like to see all issues fixed instantly; but not having fixed something non-essential after one business day is not that bad, given we have ~700 RC bugs. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile and complain about those people (to them), (or send in patches, hint hint). Yes, it would be nice if more people were working on our buildd infrastructure. Just giving root to every Debian developer so they can fix their issues themselves is not going to work. So we're left with having well respected people doing the work. So, contribute some work, gain respect, and help fix the situation. But with complaints like these, people will just start ignoring you. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]