On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 06:58:47PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 05:09:44PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Hmm, it seems to me that Ubuntu has recently changed its practices > > > regarding what degree of divergence from Debian is appropriate, notably > > > in the introduction of the MOTU group. > > > > The MOTU team was formed about a week after the first release of Ubuntu, in > > October 2004. > > At what point did Ubuntu begin to add lots of people who weren't already > seasoned Debian developers to the MOTU team, and set them loose making > large numbers of changes to packages? Perhaps that's the inflection > point that I'm looking for.
The MOTU team has never had a significant number of seasoned Debian developers on it. If such a developer is interested in contributing directly to Ubuntu, they are more likely to join the core development team, and the fact that we're already trusting them implicitly in certain ways is taken into account when considering their application. It has also always been a relatively small group of people tackling maintenance of a large set of packages, especially when considering transitions (e.g., new C++ ABI, Python minor revisions) which involve changing a very large number of packages. I think that you're looking for justification for your position after the fact, rather than making judgements based on observations. I'm not entirely sure where your negativity over Ubuntu originated (though I could hazard a guess or two), but it wasn't because the MOTU team suddenly started behaving differently. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]