On Mon July 16 2007 12:03:17 pm Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:16:49 -0600 > Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like Don's idea - remove the Debian menu from those window managers > etc. that understand .desktop files and make the Debian menu aware > of .desktop files for those other systems.
Ya, I think Don has come up with a pretty good summary of the most reasonable/significant ideas. The only thing missing is an explicit acknowledgement of the need for a way to grossly customize the menus independently of any tools provided by a specific environment. E.g., I would like the KDE K-menu to default to having a Debian submenu containing all executables, with all other submenus containing only KDE programs; if I fire up Gnome I would like its main menu to do the same; etc.---without having to independently configure each environment. > > [2] it has been awhile since I used Gnome but their menus used to > > be slower than KDE's, KDE's have gotten slower (and take up more > > HDD space, perhaps a consequence of the Freedesktop related stuff > > added to the menu subsystem and maybe why there has been a push to > > swith to .desktop files)... but the menus I get with UWM are always > > very fast > > Depends what else has been happening on the machine - the .desktop > based menus load very quickly if there is sufficient cache. The first > time I view either menu, I get the same delay on this amd64 box, it > appears to be the icons that are the cause of the delay, not the > source of the textual data. I'm not sure what is happening, only that shortly after it became annoying I noticed "xdg" related menu-methods and a ~/.local dir which hadn't existed before. It does only happen first time accessing a menu, and seems to be related more to the number of entries than whether they have icons or not. <shrug> Anything I use frequently has a desktop shortcut, panel icon, or is in the quick launcher, so it's not a big deal. A combination of KDE style menu infrastructure and a less featureful environment would be very annoying though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]