On 17-Jul-07, 02:05 (CDT), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 ? 19:08 -0500, Steve Greenland a ?crit : > > > Some of the users we target don't even know what a window manager is, > > > and they don't want to know it. > > > > Some of the users we target don't use any desktop environment, running > > headless servers. So let's remove KDE and GNOME. > > If you have nothing to say apart proving that you don't want to > understand what people write, what's the point of contributing to a > mailing list?
You keep saying that because you don't use particular menu entries, and because you don't understand why anyone would use those menu entries, they should be removed. When others say that they *do* find those entries useful, you say that well, we're not the important users, and our use of those menu entries is irrelevant, and we can work around the inconvenience. My point, which I tried to make through what I thought was obvious humorous exageration, was that NOBODY uses all of Debian. There are huge chunks that I'll never use. To *me* they are useless clutter - they make Package file downloads larger, they make finding things via aptitude and apt-cache search more inconvenient, they fill up my disk with useless translations. But because I agree with the "Debian is the universal operating system" sentiment, I don't spend time trying to get that "useless clutter" removed. I accept that many people find that functionality useful, and get on with it. If you and the other GNOME maintainers thing your primary users would be better served by removing the Debian menu entries by default, that's fine. No one would have batted an eye, so long as it was easy to re-enable (and yes, I'd consider "edit this file in /etc" sufficiently easy to qualify). But that's not what you wrote. You wanted to eliminate big chunks of the Debian menu system[1] that you didn't think were useful, Regards, Steve [1] That may not be what you *intended*. But I'm not the only one who read it that way. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]